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"...certain classes from becoming completely dominant over the course of levels." I was refering to the spellcasters. Did you watch the video? There a lot of math in there.

How Many Unique Characters Are in Pathfinder 2E? (CRB) For me, the perfect system. Thanks Paizo.

AGAIN... "You are confusing things, BALANCE on the principle that each class has its qualities and flaws, but never balanced for any situation in the game. A warrior will be totally dominant over a wizard depending on the situation and vice versa. Something completely impossible in PF1, the...

The narrative justification can be the same that in PF1 a wizard of level 3 gained +1 in his reflex save. Experiance in the field made hin more aware of area spells.PF1 Experiance in the field made hin more aware of how to dodge blows. PF2.

Removing the dominance that spellcarsters had in ANY situation. Ok , i think there is nothing left to talk about. You won. I must prepare for Thursday, because "TOMORROW MUST BURN".

"PF2E does establish balance. It demands and mandates mathematical balance. I find this obligation of math to be at the root of its failure." You are confusing things, balanced on the principle that each class has its qualities and flaws, but never balanced for any situation in the game. A...

OK…. Let's answer those who criticize a system but apparently have not tested it empirically. You claim that the mechanics of PF2 disrupt the narrative of the game. I think just the opposite. Let's justify this position with three points. 1 - PF2 has managed to make each character class...

Arrogance is a terrible flaw.

Have you ever played PF2?

I love the game. I am running Age of Ashes AP and for me and my group the system is perfect.

No i am just a gamer from Brasil who loves Pathfinde 2e.

"Being able to describe differences on top of the same math is not at all the same as having math that looks at the narrative elements of the set pieces and uses a reasonably consistent system to determine what that math should be. And if balance gets lost in telling the story well, then so be...

So tell me how other editions better support the narrative of the game?

Of course not .... It is just an bizarre exemple .

Between RAISTLIN and CONAN????? I think it is fair.

I just trying to make my point that the MATH of PF2 helps the narrative of the game.

But it was you that named conan and raistlin as a example... I am just applying a narrative of what i understand of this to iconics characters. "The answer remains "level" To my knoledge all D&D/Pathfinder games are based on levels.

And if we aply the first exemple with a sword the diference is astronomical. Conan + 36 Raistlin -4 40 points of difference.

You are wrong, in level 5 the diference is greater Conan with a sword : to hit 5 + 6 (master) + 5 (strength) = 16. Raistlin with a sword: To hit 0 + 0 (untrained) - 4 (strength) = -4. I am not dodging your point. Of course narrative is the most important thing for TTRPG. This is why you must...

Well... every RPG is based in math. Your exemple. conan 20 level fighter. Legendary with Stick to hit 20 + 8 legendary + 8 (strength) = 36 ( I could add more bonus, but lets keep this simple) Raistlin level 20 wizard Trained with stick 20 + 2 trained - 4 ( if i remember raistlin was very...