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    D&D 5E (2024) Youre All Wrong. Its Not A Martial vs Caster Situation

    To be clear I said Paladin was the highest damaging caster at the largest number of levels from 1-20. Take all the other 2024 casters (Ranger, Wizard, Cleric, Druid, Warlock, Bard, Sorcerer) and go through each one of them for every level starting with level 1 and ending with level 20 and I...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Youre All Wrong. Its Not A Martial vs Caster Situation

    I think someone who casts spells is a caster. I also think across levels 1-20, a Paladin is the highest damage caster at the largest numbers of levels, despite also being a martial.
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    D&D 5E (2024) Youre All Wrong. Its Not A Martial vs Caster Situation

    In all these discussions, one thing I find notable is that I see a lot of martials in play, but I see very few non-casters. Even the Fighters and Rogues are usually sporting some spells from something, maybe 1 in 10 PCs is actually a non-caster.
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    D&D 5E (2024) Jump or Find Familiar on my Dark Sun Scout Rogue/Drunken Monk

    So I am playing a human Scout Rogue/Monk in a new game based on Dark Sun. We are starting at level 3 (Scout 3) and will be going to level 13 (Scout 5/Monk 8). There is a lot of homebrew in the game but those two classes and subclasses are RAW (using 2024 rules and classes with 2014...
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    D&D 5E (2024) 2024 Class Rankings (from nat1gaming.com) for ppl who believe that stuff.

    It is not as much, but I think it is incorrect to say it is not close, especially at high levels. Without feats a 10th level Bladesinger in bladesong using Green Flame Blade is looking at 3d8+10 (23.5) to one target and 1d8+5 (9.5) to another, so nomimally 33 damage A Raging Zealot 10th levle...
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    D&D 5E (2024) 2024 Class Rankings (from nat1gaming.com) for ppl who believe that stuff.

    It is in the 2024 UA and is different than the PC you describe, biggest differences being no armor, intelligence instead of Strength/Dex on attacks, Bladesong uses tied to intelligence, not proficiency bonus, and a bonus action attack.
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    D&D 5E (2024) Can A Spell Caster Out Damage a Martial Consistently?

    The Champion in our current game at 18th level will hit 200 pretty regularly with Action Surge. He crits on an 18, wields a Vicious Maul and has GWM (2024 version). He also has a Belt of Giant Strength and a Hammer of Thunderbolts, which boosts Strength quite a bit. In terms of math, keep in...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Can A Spell Caster Out Damage a Martial Consistently?

    The damage difference is huge if you make it to the second round with the spell up with enemies close to you that individually still have a ton of hit points. In other situations it is not huge and in many situations (perhaps even most situations) it will actually be lower damage than if you...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Can A Spell Caster Out Damage a Martial Consistently?

    "A Frightened creature takes the Dash action and moves away from you by the safest route on each of its turns unless there is nowhere to move. " I and every DM I have played with interprets that as: The creature must take the Dash action [regardless of situation] and moves away from you unless...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Can A Spell Caster Out Damage a Martial Consistently?

    No but what I said was Fear can end an encounter, and it can. Not all encounters, and some that it can end it can't end reliably, but others it can do it reliably. It is somewhat situational but the power and effect of that spell is so high that it is in play the best 3rd level spell I have...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Can A Spell Caster Out Damage a Martial Consistently?

    We are at 18th level in one 2024 campaign I am playing and it has not been a problem at all. TBH I would say it is less effective than Magic Missile most of the time.
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    D&D 5E (2024) Can A Spell Caster Out Damage a Martial Consistently?

    I'm not saying it can clear the dungeon, but it can clear a room.
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    D&D 5E (2024) Martial/Caster fix.

    Well the Simulacrum spell states the Simulacrum can't cast this spell, which I would interpret to mean you can't cast it through Wish either.
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    D&D 5E (2024) Can A Spell Caster Out Damage a Martial Consistently?

    Doing a long rest in a dungeon is generally sketch. We recently finished a reboot of Temple of Elemental Evil. It was the 1E campaign updated with modern 5E and MCDM monsters. In the temple proper we had about 4 maps a little smaller than the one above and then 4 elemental nodes each about a...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Can A Spell Caster Out Damage a Martial Consistently?

    Fear can end an encounter pretty effectively.
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    D&D 5E (2024) Wrapping up first 2-20 2024 campaign this week, some of my thoughts

    This might work for players who don't have a lot of experience, but as someone who has played a lot I feel like I can figure out what I want for my character better than the DM. It is not always about optimization though. I play Rangers more than anything else, and the only Ranger subclass I...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Wrapping up first 2-20 2024 campaign this week, some of my thoughts

    I really like multiclassing and my character ideas feel restrained if I can't do it. I think multiclassing is official now and no longer "optional" so to speak. I also think the mechanics in the 2024 rules encourage a 1-level dip in Paladin or Ranger or Monk for a lot of builds. Letting half...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Wrapping up first 2-20 2024 campaign this week, some of my thoughts

    I don't think dip style multiclassing is a big problem. My PC and the Valor Bard both have Divine Smite out of a dip and the Valor Bard also has Pact of Blade from a dip. Those have not been overwhelming though and neither of us are the powerhouse the single class Fighter is. My Bard dip is...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Wrapping up first 2-20 2024 campaign this week, some of my thoughts

    There are 2 from WOTC I know of (DOMM and VEOR), but there are a lot from independant publishers, I have played at least 4 independent campaigns that went to level 20 myself.
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