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    D&D 5E (2014) Paladin just committed murder - what should happen next?

    No. My experiences inform my opinion. Do not tell me what I may say.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Paladin just committed murder - what should happen next?

    I am not arguing that what he was good. I don't think it was wholly evil either. Probably neutral "I will save my life for something greater because I have no realistic recourse to save this innocent". The paladin got mugged and gave in. It sucks. Kobayashi Maru scenarios typically do. The...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Paladin just committed murder - what should happen next?

    7th level could be what (1 session for levels 1 and 2, 2sessions per level thereafter) 10-12 sessions? That's an inexperienced new player if that's all he played.
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    What is the essence of D&D

    Nod. Participation in all SC is a nice inclusive terrible idea. 4e also had TERRIBLE math in the skill challenges when I looked at it. It took, what, 4 iterations to become passable? I did the math originally, and couldn't stop giggling over how unlikely a group was to succeed and then there...
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    What is the essence of D&D

    1e. Wilderness Survival Guide and Dungeon Survival Guide
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    What is the essence of D&D

    So does The Fantasy Trip, but it's another game I don't bother running.
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    What is the essence of D&D

    Really? As impactful as dimension door and teleport? As impactful as 1e's wall of stone? As impactful as Clairvoyance and Magic Mirror? Utilities were toned down specifically to allow more action adventure style stuff to go on.
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    What is the essence of D&D

    Not true. The fighters sacrificed a few of the weapon proficiency slots for extra non-proficiencies. They've picked up a smattering of magic items that help them extend into the investigative/stealthy sections, and one is becoming a Bard. Their henchmen also help broaden their options. If I...
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    What is the essence of D&D

    And? We are an adventuring group with a focus on getting the treasure, leaving the danger. Getting into fights was dangerous and we work (overly) hard to avoid/minimize/overwhelm opposition. We use as many external replaceable resources as we can, investigate thoroughly, take as few risks as...
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    What is the essence of D&D

    The reason I'm bringing this up is doctorbadwolf was arguing 4e doesn't have a focus on combat compared to 1e. How may combat abilities does a 3rd level Wizard have? I had 0 -- a single daily I effectively replaced with utility.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Paladin just committed murder - what should happen next?

    If Smaug were awake and specifically menacing poor Bilbo at the time, you'd be closer.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Paladin just committed murder - what should happen next?

    and then he gets eaten because this is D&D not a movie.
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    What is the essence of D&D

    And my character now has several dozen and at least a few combat abilities.
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    What is the essence of D&D

    I know you get separate combat powers. That's the point. I had a single combat power I almost never used. I had a bunch of utility powers. In 4e, I'd have more combat powers and fewer utility powers because there is a focus on combat in 4e unlike 1e. The expectation of combat -- and the...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Paladin just committed murder - what should happen next?

    Depends on how quick-witted the player is and how experienced as well. Quick-witted players are more likely to consider negotiation or trying to pull a rabbit out of their hat (and then depending on what's going on in the DM;s head, getting eaten). New players are unlikely to think of the...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Paladin just committed murder - what should happen next?

    No, like I typed, I'm not good in the moment. That's the level of repartee you can expect from me. That and memorized one-liners. "I do not drink... wine" which doesn't quite fit. Maybe "After you, perhaps I'll have a single wafer-thin mint!". If I were the paladin, I'd probably blurt out...
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    What is the essence of D&D

    Take a look at the 1st level spell list my 1e Magic-user has. 11 spells. 1 mandatory, 3 random assignments. 1 attack spell. I got that one randomly at 1st level. For my 1st 3 levels, all I had was a subset of those 11 spells. At 3rd, I think I had 5? in my spell book. Do you know how...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Paladin just committed murder - what should happen next?

    Au contraire! I prefer my meat -- scared. Chomp. I'm more tongue-tied verbally than when typing. I'd never come up with stuff like that unless sitting down and thinking about it for minutes which doesn't happen often in the middle of a session. "You should have fought harder and this...
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    What is the essence of D&D

    My M-U went lightning specialist because I couldn't learn Fireball or Wall of Fire!
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    D&D 5E (2014) Paladin just committed murder - what should happen next?

    As a DM running a dragon, if a puny human refused my demands to give me that hunk of meat... I'd eat them both. If he tried to talk to me, I'd eat him unless I needed something else. After all, I picked this fight. I'm pretty confident to begin with and I'm a freaking dragon. As a DM framing...
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