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I'm not challenging your decision. Its your decision, not mine. I'm just noting how time changes things, even ENWorld. I think "no open gaming? how would you respond"" is front page stuff for ENWorld. Arguing about details of the license and the specifics, that seems like OGL thread stuff to me...

I was worried friday. I have calmed down a bit. It isnt like me to get all freaky. But I do feel so very strongly that it is a huge mistake to not allow third party publishers to support 4E. So I appologize for my public statements of concern. I dont retract them. I still have them. But as I...

It is a bit ironic that the "why you should care" thread has not been moved back into the main forum. I mean, here we are -- at ENWorld. If ever there is a place that is all about open gaming it is here. Heck, this site does the ENNies for goodness sake! This site would hardly continue to...

My point is the same as it was: As of right now, they have not approached me with a license. BUT I believe that if they decide not to publically license 4E that I could probably get permission to do some things. I think that is because they are deciding what they are going to do. There is no...

True. It didnt tarnish the image of D&D (maybe a little, but not significantly). BUT it was one of the key catalysts for the restrictions in the d20 STL/Guide on sexuality and other content. So it had a negative impact on how the company viewed open game products. There were people in the...

I know you have an agenda that wants to push variety and more systems. But the bottom line is that Wizards has determined in prior market research that more systems is bad for them and bad for D&D.

My number one goal, philosophically, is to support the modern version of the rules. I'v explained why in numerous threads. If 4E is licensed, I dont really see a way it would be too restrictive for me. Just make adventures? Fine. Just make sourcebooks? Fine. The only way I could see directly...

Oldtimer, you are right of course. I shouldnt have said "at first" I should have said "back in basic D&D". But that said, in ODD you only had fighters, magic users and clerics. Not even theives. When I mention STR, INT, WIS its 'cusae those were the prime attributes of the 3 classes. Dex, Con...

Of course B would be the easiest and would be my preference as Clark from Necromancer Games. But I mean if I was Wizards, I would choose C.

There are four options: A. Close 4E. Nothing more to discuss. B. Use the OGL. That's easy. Just create the 4E SRD and say "this is released as open game content". Then let us use it under the license. C. License the PI and work those restrictions from the old STL back in. This would be...

Yeah, and there are several ways to react to that. I'd post and say "hey, rad idea you have there. Coincidentally, you will probably like product XYZ that we are working on that is pretty similar." That said, the "what you post here is ours" mentality is pretty prevalent and cant really be used...

I'm sad to hear that, but I cant disagree with you. Frankly, my hope is 4E is open to some degree even if under a GSL and not an OGL. I said it back in the day and I will say it again--open gaming was a renaissance of the golden age of D&D from its early days when companies like Judges Guild...

That, my friend, is an excellent question. It really has to do with my philosophy. I support D&D. That means the current incarnation of the rules by the official publisher. That may sound on its face like I'm just a shill for the owner of the trademark. I'm not. Necromancer was founded to be...

LOL. You got me! :) I know you are kidding. That was funny. AND it was just what this thread needed. We can all laugh at ourselves, I hope. Bottom line: Its up to Wizards. I've stated my thoughts. I trust Scott and Linae and the people there. And it will be what it will be. Clark

Sora, By the way, I dont think you should get in trouble for posting this. I didnt take it the way I think the mods did. I didnt see you as telling me to "shut up" like you were shouting me down. You were saying "hey, be quiet for your own good and make some freaking money for yourself...

As an aside, I dont appreciate your suggestions that I am trying to trick anyone. But that aside, Necro doesnt pay my bills. It isnt my livelyhood at all. Its a hobby. A hobby I happen to be passionate about. Does it make money? Yes. But if Necro closed its doors the financial impact on me...

Thanks! I am still optimistic (though concerned). I am optimistic because Wizards has good people like Scott and Linae who I KNOW FOR A FACT understand open gaming and its value and the value of third parties like Necro to the continued success of D&D and I know they are fighting to get things...

I can tell you now, I would never do that. I have massive issues with the whole OSRIC thing. But I dont want to get into that. I agree with that. I dont know if Wizards understands that. I cant tell you how many emails I have gotten over the life of Necro that say: "I had no interest in 3E...

Mods, I know the rules about where threads go, but this isnt so much an OGL question as it is a question about what will you, the gaming public, do if 4E is not open. That belongs in the general 4E forum, in my view. Yes, there is some overlap. But most people dont care about the nuts and...

I think you are exactly right. That is what is going on. BUT THERE IS A POSSIBLE -POSITIVE- OUTCOME HERE TOO! Rethinking the GSL could lead to a decision to simply release 4E under the OGL. So I dont want people to go all gloom and doom. Yes, I am concerned. I am concerned at the twists this...