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Dont speak for me, please. :) Yes, I was told this directly. I asked directly if it was a product by product or company by company choice and I was told directly that it was company by company. That is what started my concern and that is what led to this discussion. And I am glad we had that...

I agree, and that is correct. I was told that. Word for word. So, yes, perhaps the document is the same, but I dont think everyone at Wizards was on the same page on what the document meant. It appears that has now all been straightened out, and straightened out in a way that is what I was...

I'm thrilled. :) Clark

Did anyone ever do a 4E update of this classic?

I cant believe I actually agree with JRT on something.

No, you didnt. But the terms they speak of for d20 content is more favorable than it could have been. Plus, they have now publically stated that you could simply remove the logo and use the OGL to reprint the prior work. They arent trying to stop that. That answers part of the backstock...

You might want to see Scott's comments on the new "ICV2 talks to Scott Rouse" thread. Link in caption above on the board. The comments are very, very reassuring. Still questions to be answered, but I am very happy with what I am reading. I'm telling you guys, trust Scott and Linae. Clark

OK, yeah, now I'm getting the sarcasm :)

Why? Because a lot of people in corporate culture JUST DONT GET IT. Its that simple. They are scared of open content. They dont understand it. It bothers them on some internal level. They are managers who answer to larger overlords and fear being the person who is blamed for "giving it away."...

It could be, and frankly I was surprised that Wulf was saying that based on prior comments. Thanks for helping. I need it. This whole thing is driving me crazy :) Clark

Maybe you could cook up an example, but I would say no. Not helping as much as something should is still a help. Harm is different than help. I guess you could come up with some concept that anything that does less than 100% of its maximum possible value is a harm, but that is not that way...

A couple people here complaining is hardly a "hotly contested debate raging like a hurricane all around" me. Not a single publisher I have ever spoken with, nor do I recall any major publishers on the ogl lists, ever complaining that the problem was that the license was viral. Not Monte, Mona...

Sure. They wanted the restrictions that are in the STL (no nudity, no excessive violence, etc). That is different, in my view, than saying the OGL is bad or that the problem is that it is viral. The problem that Wizards had is that they tied their restrictions to a logo that became irrelevant.

I dont think there is any support for that. I dont think the OGL hurt Wizards at all. In fact, quite the contrary. I think it helped the d20 system dominate the market in a crazy way. :) It also made it real easy for people to create 3E support products, which kept people plugged into D&D. As...

I'd like to see that clause gone, too. And I have asked them to consider that. Now we just have to trust Scott and Linae to do their thing. And it will either happen or it wont. Bottom line is this: there is no magic world where 4E was supportable under the OGL. That didnt happen. In fact...

So I guess what I am saying is either trust me or not, that is fine with me. That is your call. But please dont base that decision on the fact that you believe my conduct is shaped by financial interests, 'cause that isnt the case. :) But, like I said, in the end it is up to you. I am just...

Actually, my help here and my requests are what I believe are in the good of D&D. I've addressed this issue before. And while I am getting tired of repeating it, I can see how people on the face of it think this is me acting in the interests of Necro. But I am a gamer first and a president of...

Thanks Mike!

Luckily, the APG has mechanics courtesy of Ari, and I think his stuff stacks up with the best of them. :) Clark

FST (great name by the way)- I know I sound like a broken record on this, but lets trust Scott and Linae. I said that for the GSL when everyone was saying there wouldnt be one and lo and behold there is a GSL. Now there is some confusion about the "poison pill" term of the GSL, and I admit...