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My intent is to use the rogue for the initial skills, and the expertise in thieves' tools, then take paladin for smites, and finish off with Bard for the versatility, and the spell slots that can be used with smite. I'm thinking Swashbuckler for the increase to initiative, and I like both the...

I disagree about it not being remotely evil. Evil people look for things to exploit, and care little to nothing about others. They often trample over others to achieve a goal. They can still follow a code of conduct, set of personal rules, or even local laws. They can still respect authority...

I also just thought of this, but being that a theme that is similar the 4th ed avenger class appeals to me. If my character was a vigilante of sorts it would give room for some nice role playing for the paladin to pursuade me into becoming religious. If the paladin took an oath of vengeance we...

Thanks for the input. I’m particularly fond of the concept of someone who respects authority, has his own personal code of conduct, and never breaks a promise, but still doesn’t care much for others and looks for loopholes that can be exploited. They type of person that would say “I agree not to...

I like the following themes. Pirates, Indiana Jones, vigilantes, the Mariachi from once upon a time in Mexico. I really like the concept of the college of whispers, but I'm not sure how often I will be able to use the abilities other than psychic blades. I also don't know if those abilities are...

We are all trying to find more players, but no one ever sticks. No one has actually asked for an npc, but all of my players have played with just me before where I play a second character and they all seemed fine with it so I assumed they would be in this setting. I can definitely make an npc to...

Thanks for adding your experience about it. I’ll definitely think about it a lot before making any decisions.

I see your point. The intent is to fill avoid in a small group. The npc would ideally function the same as mercenary npc’s in dnd video games. Has specific abilities and takes orders only. Doesn’t interact in social situations and follows a chosen strategy when in combat. I’m willing to use...

Thanks. The primary idea is to be a dm controlled support character, but if it works out well then every now and then when I don't DM then I might play it myself. For my own character, not as a DM, If I was going for a character that was meant to fill the role of a church's assassin or spy what...

What do you guys think of playing a character that either dips into rogue or bard for skills, or takes feats that grant more skills and going full pally. Specifically the skilled and burglar feats to gain proficiency in stealthy options and thieves tools. Burglar specifically because when...

You know I never really thought about that. Thanks for the suggestion. For now I will do that. If the concept is extremely liked by my group then I will suggest multiclass options that fit the role and/or create an archetype or refluff an archetype. If not then it will remain an npc. I wouldn’t...

I should add that my whole thought process of making an npc to aid the party that fits this role is that for some reason no one in my group besides me likes to play rogues or paladins. I personally have a hard time choosing between the two.

Thanks for the feedback. Arcane trickster being tweaked to be a divine trickster was one option I considered, but I’m having a hard time bringing it to paper. Wrath was intended to be similar to smiting, but I used different labels and words to try and give the class its own fluff. I...

Hello all. I'm working on a campaign setting for my group that I DM. One of the concepts I am trying to full fill is a divine rogue. I don't want the divine rogue to remove the need for a rogue, nor do I want an archetype because I feel that it would be hard to full fil that role with an...