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Correct. You can deliver a coup de grace with a ray spell that deals hit point damage . You must be adjacent to your target to deliver the coup de grace

Still, if I was to allow all range attacks (all ranged weapons and spells), in the case of such spells I'd probably treat them as a sneak attack: Only the first attack counts. RC p42 • A form of attack that enables an attacker to make multiple attacks during an action other than a full-round...

SRD: Coup de Grace As a full-round action, you can use a melee weapon to deliver a coup de grace to a helpless opponent. You can also use a bow or crossbow, provided you are adjacent to the target. You automatically hit and score a critical hit. If the defender survives the damage, he must make...

8) .... or should I say................... O'o" ....*ouch*

How about this guy carrying two bows? }} :)

I'd say 2nd level for a permanent effect, and 1st level for an abortion-type spell.

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ok... I read it... no big deal................. *vomit*:yawn: The potion would still require a spell to be based on... just saying.

Of course you are free to critique (in fact, this is what this thread is all about), to state what you think is broken, unbalanced etc... but I'm fairly certain there are far more polite ways to do this, don't you think?

after a few days of repeating: "my name is Jimlock and I 'm not addicted to EnWorld" ... ...well i finally break... and I come back to notice that... thankfully everything is still the same:)

Excuse me, ...and honestly without disrespect... but... did you read any of the posts before yours?

• A form of attack that enables an attacker to make multiple attacks during an action other than a full-round action, such as the Many-shot feat (standard action) or a quickened scorching ray (swift ac- tion), allows precision damage to be applied only to the first attack in the group. I...

If what it takes to bring the love back is to go into board games... I'd rather keep on hating some!!!

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In respect to your OP and my answer, I'd say that the rules-lawyer is the guy who's gonna cut right into the drama/action of the game, will "force" a pause so as to open all books available and make sure that everything is done by the book. One or more guys like that can easily double (at the...

Ok, too many people are taking "Hate" too literally in this thread. Perhaps it's my fault for using the word, because after all... hate means hate... but i was thinking more of dislikes... and more of "fun" hatred, as in the Fart-Post on the first page...:)

I'd say it depends on how many minutes (hours?) you actually stop playing the game, and become a rules-Lawyer instead.

Ok... after 3 posts, i think we understand how you dislike Rules Compendium, not how the rules works as far as SA is concerned though. So I assume... that you are also implying that the core books and all the supplements after them had it all "explicitly" covered down to the last detail, until...

“Now hatred is by far the longest pleasure; men love in haste but they detest at leisure”;) Lord Byron

amm they might be right you know...:)