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You know those are fighting words here. ;) Seriously though, I would probably be more likely to embrace 4e as a computer game than table-top game. :p Did I fail my Will Save or did something attack my Will Defense :lol:

DDO's implementation is the exact reason why I think GW evokes more D&D-like feelings. For me D&D is a more tactical and resource management game than shooter. Who the hell ever kept track of combats rounds with an egg timer?!? While GW and most of the other games I mentioned are real-time...

With respects to cooperative v. adversarial game play, you are absolutely right; Guild War's end game (after campaign play) does not resemble anything I have ever played in D&D. My comments are based on my experiences in the game while I am playing the campaign. Campaign being the operative...

That's what I loved about D&D, that with one system there was room for all types of play. :) (If I understand your implication ;))

That's the rub for me though. I was not set against it originally. I was worn out from the weight of 3e and waiting for something new and different. I had originally thought to move to C&C or create a new 1e/BECMI hybrid, but I figured I would wait until 4e came out. Once it did though it failed...

Wow, 120 hours? At the current rate of play, that would mean I would have to "test drive" the game for 10 months or so. I have been playing for 20+ years. I think after four or so sessions I can get a feel for what the game is going to be like especially after reading through the PH. Yeah, by...

Thanks for the link. I am enjoying the return to my gaming roots.

I think this thread is an excellent discussion of the different DM styles throughout all of the editions. 1e, 2e, OD&D, B/X, BECMI, and RC These editions trusted the DM to fairly adjudicate the game. There were no real guidelines for balancing encounters against the party. The DM was tasked...

OK i see. I didn't understand because that's how I play anyway. As DM I try to challenge the players and their characters and they try to not die (the characters of course.) Now we never did play into higher levels (14+) in 3e but did in earlier editions past. I don't think we ever thought...

I am really surprised at these poll results and somewhat surprised at the results at RPGnet. I wonder how many of the respondents bought the books but answered tried or didn't try? WOTC made such a big deal about sales of the books compared to earlier editions, that I wonder if those books are...

All right I'll bite. Wasn't what you are proposing pretty much what DDM and chainmail were before they were cancelled; two sides equally balanced and set loose against each other. Just in 4e's case each combatant on player's side run by each player but on the DM's side all combantants run by...

I agree with the OP; the mechanics do not inspire me to play the game.

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Welcome. I haven't played either of those you mentioned CC, but I have and have played Earthdawn and Tales From the Floating Vagabond. :p (Don't mind me I have had a bad day today)

I don't think that I would like 4e made as a CRPG. Not only would it probably need to be turn based, it would also need to be played on a grid to properly adjudicate all the different movement effects. Not only that but would it use 1,1,1,1 diagonal movement or movement more properly modeled...

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I am a tard. I was looking at the 1e version not the 2e. Thanks.

I cannot say from personal experience but from what I can gather, no it would not. As a matter of fact, so far I cannot find a SINGLE TSR module that has a dragon as its main antagonist, that isn't related to Dragonlance. Kinda makes me wonder about Goodman Games whole "Get to the 20th level...

Base attributes should be random, but what you do with those abilities should be choice. I didn't choose to be this good looking, but I sure am going to use it for all its worth. :cool:

Years ago I abhorred the thought of 3e, but the previews that Dragon had in its pages sold me. I looked in its pages and thought cool, maybe I should look at this new edition and see what they changed/fixed. Being able to flip through the pages actually got me to look at the new edition they are...