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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how D&D 4E could have looked

    The Fighter is using the skill in the comparison. A DC 15 check by an 8 Str Wizard untrained at 1st level means the Wizard needs to roll a 16 or 25% of the time. The 20 Strength, 20th level(+6 proficiency) Fighter has a +11 and therefore needs to roll a 4, or 85% of the time.
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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked

    Well sure, you can make that DC 15 a DC 20 check to challenge that high level 20 Strength Fighter. But doesn't that sound suspiciously like changing the DC of the check to match up better with the level of the PC?
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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how D&D 4E could have looked

    Well sure, you can make that DC 15 a DC 20 check to challenge that high level 20 Strength Fighter. But doesn't that sound suspiciously like changing the DC of the check to match up better with the level of the PC?
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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked

    If a door is DC 26 regardless of tier, they could very well be the same door in fiction. And a Paragon tier PC might be expected to be at 7(level)+5(training)+6(stat) or +18, so needs an 8 or 65% of the time where the Epic Demigod might be 12+5+8 or +25 and therefore auto-succeeds. Hmm —...
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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how D&D 4E could have looked

    If a door is DC 26 regardless of tier, they could very well be the same door in fiction. And a Paragon tier PC might be expected to be at 7(level)+5(training)+6(stat) or +18, so needs an 8 or 65% of the time where the Epic Demigod might be 12+5+8 or +25 and therefore auto-succeeds. Hmm —...
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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked

    Right. And because 5e changes the difficulty over level in most ways, it doesn't actually use Bounded Accuracy. Monsters get proficiency based on CR as an example and bumps to AC = proficiency+expected stat boosts. Higher level games feature DC 15 and DC 20 skill checks where lower level games...
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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how D&D 4E could have looked

    Right. And because 5e changes the difficulty over level in most ways, it doesn't actually use Bounded Accuracy. Monsters get proficiency based on CR as an example and bumps to AC = proficiency+expected stat boosts. Higher level games feature DC 15 and DC 20 skill checks where lower level games...
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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked

    Bounded Accuracy doesn't exist. 5e is 4e/2 math, just with a lot of smoke and mirrors to make it difficult to figure out. If you would get a +4 to hit in 4e from leveling up in 4e total due to everything, you ought to get a +2 to hit in 5e due to everything. If you would be expected get +12 to...
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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how D&D 4E could have looked

    Bounded Accuracy doesn't exist. 5e is 4e/2 math, just with a lot of smoke and mirrors to make it difficult to figure out. If you would get a +4 to hit in 4e from leveling up in 4e total due to everything, you ought to get a +2 to hit in 5e due to everything. If you would be expected get +12 to...
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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked

    Except oddly enough, level 15 PCs see DC 20 checks as often level 1 PCs see DC 15. And level 15 PCs don't see all that many DC 15 checks, just as level 1 PCs don't see all that many DC 10 checks. Almost as if it would be expected that they'd have a +5 to the skill check for some strange reason...
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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how D&D 4E could have looked

    Except oddly enough, level 15 PCs see DC 20 checks as often level 1 PCs see DC 15. And level 15 PCs don't see all that many DC 15 checks, just as level 1 PCs don't see all that many DC 10 checks. Almost as if it would be expected that they'd have a +5 to the skill check for some strange reason...
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    D&D 4E 4E Character Optimization WOTC rescue Handbook Guide

    No problem at all. Some of us are still playing on roll20 — BaldHermit, Martyr, myself and occasionally a few others in a big 100 person or so group: Would be awesome if you could play there. Some really good new optimizers on there as well...
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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked

    4e has a page of rules about how the DM should accomplish this on page 42 of DMG. It makes suggestions about likely overall suggested outcomes and DCs to set. So if someone wanted to spend an encounter power to leap on the Beholder and grab its eyestalks, I know exactly how I'd resolve that...
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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how D&D 4E could have looked

    4e has a page of rules about how the DM should accomplish this on page 42 of DMG. It makes suggestions about likely overall suggested outcomes and DCs to set. So if someone wanted to spend an encounter power to leap on the Beholder and grab its eyestalks, I know exactly how I'd resolve that...
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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked

    Your theoretical 4e fighter isn't theoretical. Spells increase either in power and/or targets. That's quadratic. Making mass targets helpless or lose actions is much more powerful than against single targets. And there are a number of single target damage spells that can do crazy damage —...
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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how D&D 4E could have looked

    Your theoretical 4e fighter isn't theoretical. Spells increase either in power and/or targets. That's quadratic. Making mass targets helpless or lose actions is much more powerful than against single targets. And there are a number of single target damage spells that can do crazy damage —...
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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked

    I take it you've never seen a Variant Human 5e Bard with the Alert feat+16 Dex+Jack of All Trades(so +8 or 9 initiative) with a Bardic Instrument throw down Hypnotic Pattern in every combat and watched every encounter basically auto-fail their saving throws? Because I've sat down at a table...
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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how D&D 4E could have looked

    I take it you've never seen a Variant Human 5e Bard with the Alert feat+16 Dex+Jack of All Trades(so +8 or 9 initiative) with a Bardic Instrument throw down Hypnotic Pattern in every combat and watched every encounter basically auto-fail their saving throws? Because I've sat down at a table...
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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked

    A Fighter in 4e can be a non-magical batman in the exact same way that a Fighter in 5e does. Pick options that involve lots of attacks and easily explained effects. So a Str/Dex Tempest Fighter with Rain of Blows, Trip Up, Bash & Pummel who goes Shock Trooper as a Paragon Path is an incredibly...
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    D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how D&D 4E could have looked

    A Fighter in 4e can be a non-magical batman in the exact same way that a Fighter in 5e does. Pick options that involve lots of attacks and easily explained effects. So a Str/Dex Tempest Fighter with Rain of Blows, Trip Up, Bash & Pummel who goes Shock Trooper as a Paragon Path is an incredibly...
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