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Found it better to just block them, and so I did

Everything is always a mixed bag of quality because different aspects of a thing mean more or less to different people. The best way to avoid any toxicity is to stop trying to convince someone your view is better or right. (This isn't directed at you, specifically)

Tried this with 2 of my 3 groups. They hated it, and I remembered why I hated it too. I don't think any of the people I play with have any desire to go back to any edition, and we've quickly gotten over the nostalgia.

Most bad things are because 3e existed, this is true.

This sounds like a fancy way of skirting TOS and calling someone a liar.

I mean... no. All journalists will have a source who wants to be off record/confidential/background. Doesn't matter if it's reporting on the inner workings of a federal agency, or the naughty word business practices of a TTRPG company in the 80's. YOU DON'T BURN YOUR SOURCE NO MATTER WHAT, for two...

Your statement doesn't negate his. People are able of developing adversarial relationships towards well designed things :). (I tried to fulfill the polite reply prophecy)

I'm discovering that some people need to be told how to be creative in step-by-step instructions, I guess. Once again, being facetious because I disagree so deeply with this premise

Monkeys and typewriters was basically all of second edition lore, except instead of Shakespeare they got Max Brand or equivalent.

So then the information doesn't say the contrary. Really, the fact that 5e is a bigger success than all the previous editions, with it's lore, means that it either doesn't matter, or people like the lore

Which opinion do you think I'm saying is commonly held?

I forgot that bloat means depth Edit: this was meant more facetious than it came out. I don't entertain the original position enough to have a non-facetious response.

This is not the abnormal opinion. It is shared by most people.

It's always pretty rough when you find out that a game has evolved past you, so I can intellectually understand your pain, even if I don't share it. It'll happen to me some day, I assume.

Well there's the problem.

Between 11.2 and 15 mil. I'm actually not even sure what the argument is anymore; it's nearly impossible to say that the number of Youtube views for one channel, for the first trailer, of a movie that is 8 months out, is indicative of how much trouble that movie might be in. It seems like a...

Right, but the marketing budget for Shang Chi is actually a known entity.

I don't think this logic holds, and it's hard to even entertain.

My home town approves of nothing, ever

There is no reality where the numbers of Level Up will ever seen like a threat to WoTC or D&D.