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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    This might help explain the depth of difference between personal preferences in types of gaming and the unwelcoming message sent by the inclusion of slavery in gaming materials.
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    I agree that men's and boy's behavior was a larger barrier to entry into the RPG sphere for women than the artwork in the books. And I know from experience though that artwork contributes to the problem. Women I know who early on started gaming did so in spite of sexist art. The women I knew...
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    Ah, I see. It seemed to me that you were being dismissive of other people's opinions through hyperbole. Thanks for clarifying. Why? Because the first mention of erotica was in response to a question about pin-up art in RPGs. I think pin-up art is reasonably classified as erotica. EDIT: I...
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    You and I have very different ideas of what constitutes losing one's mind. And of pitchforks.
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    Some people have expressed some opinions on a D&D forum. None of us have lost our minds and none of us are carrying pitchforks, puritanical or otherwise. What's the point of mischaracterizing this discussion?
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    I see the break in communications here. I believe you're making unwarranted inferrences. If I say something is sexist and inappropriate, that does not mean that I'm lobbying to ban that thing. First, I don't have the power or authority to prohibit any pubished content. Second, if I did have...
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    Of course it can be there. No one is suggesting that pin-up art or sexy Arnold pectoral pics be prohibited by the Central Fantasy Art Commission. Publishers should at least be aware of the messages they are sending and of the customers they are potentially losing.
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    D&D 5E (2014) WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    @DorkForge @Alzrius It’s just a typo, folks.
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    D&D 5E (2014) WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    In hopes of leaving this on a more positive note, I'll just say that you've made a number of inaccurate inferences that have led you to misrepresent my position. That distinction might frequently be lost (by either the creator whose work is being judged or by the one criticizing the work) but...
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    D&D 5E (2014) WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    Interesting. You've linked to a thread that both you and I participated in. Do you recall the context? I do. It wasn't about gaming materials. You indicated that if someone is expressing a bigoted opinion -- the example on the table was that Jews are greedy -- the best response is a...
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    D&D 5E (2014) WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    I don't follow much social media. Can you point to any RPG creators who were subjected to personal attacked intented to ruin personal or professional lives based on the content of their creative work? Was Paizo's decision to stop depicting slavery in its campaign setting a response to personal...
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    No. What brings you to that conclusion?
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    You wouldn’t have to rework the entire setting. Just use the readily-available original DS materials. I can understand why people would like the DS classes, species, and monsters officially updated to 5e, but wouldn’t those be usable in the old setting, if that’s your preference? Do you need a...
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    Do you mean there are game systems with written rules against evil PCs? (If so, can you provide examples?) Or do you mean gaming groups which limit player options?
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    No, I’m not saying that. I can’t speak definitively for others, but based on what I’m reading here … no, no one is saying that they want publishers to be prohibited from including objectionable content. I can say that I don’t want something — and I can say why I think it’s a bad idea to...
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    I’m not sure why this keeps coming up. This isn’t about what we’re allowed to do. No one here has the authority or power to disallow us from using any content in our games or to prohibit a business from publishing whatever they want to publish.
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    No. The argument -- which isn't mine, remember! -- is that WotC is concerned that people will perceive the inclusion of slavery in Dark Sun as supporting slavery. [EDIT: And I'll add that supporting slavery doesn't mean supporting slavery in real life but rather supporting the practice of...
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    Is Resource Management “Fun?”

    I seem to recall that happening in the old Knights of the Dinner Table comics.
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    To be clear, I’m not stating this as my opinion — just clarifying what the upthread arguments were. Call it fear of the mob (if we make the worst interpretation) or empathy for the sensibilities of their customers (if we view it more positively). Frankly, I think WotC has as much to “fear”...
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    I believe the argument was that WotC doesn’t want to be perceived as supporting slavery and that they (WotC) think including slavery in Dark Sun could be perceived that way.
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