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That is true, but if the climbing part is not in anyway involved (No matter what you roll you will get to the top) Is climbing skill in anyway needed? Shouldn't you roll on a skill that matches what the failure might be?

Where I was going with it (before I got distracted and forgot to get back to it) was that I could see someone deciding to use Cha for a climbing check if it was described right and this is due to using the right ability for what is being described as the stakes. So the characters are going up...

So the check does matter and for you at least there needs to be some connection between the thing being affected and the check used. Can you see that for some people, they might like more of that connection than you prefer? They might like the consequence to relate more directly to the skill...

So you would be happy if we used (Cha) intimidation to scare the mountain into letting us climb without dropping anything?

Really it is a question of where you are setting the stakes. In the climbing example you are setting the stakes as get to the top and have all your gear and ready to get going right away and having no other set backs. Anything less than they you would view as being a failure. And so you group...

Why not just roll for the thing that is in question? As DM you have decided that the characters must get to the top of the mountain/ basket ball game/ get through the door. Top of the mountain. - if you fail a climbing check you get to the top but drop an item on the way......vs......It takes a...

You're right. Sorry shouldn't post late at night

The distance meta magic won't interact with it because it does not roll to hit. (See second post of the thread) but spell sniper would, so 10' distance.

As long as it leads to something interesting we will just consider that you were failing forward!!!

Thanks. The bit about the only on spells requiring an attack roll was the bit I missed. (I had written most of the other stuff out and deleted it because I thought I would be wasting every ones time.) He is building a Cleric/sorcerer and very much wants to be in the middle of combat. His other...

These two cantrips seem very similar except that thunderclap gives off a loud sound to 100'. An interesting difference though is that Thunderclap is range self (5 foot radius), but Sword burst is range 5'. Is this deliberate or an intentional difference. One of my players wants to take Sword...

Yes. It would be awesome. (I mean tragic)

Yes it is the wild magic that specifies sorcerer spell. Looks like its good then.

Great thanks. Those were the reasons I had thought too.

If you have a character that has levels in both Tempest cleric and storm sorcerer how do their special features interact. I know that the spells are separate and the total spell casting slots are found in the multi-classing section. The specific things I am not sure on is: Can you use meta magic...

Another approach to this would be rather than limiting the amount of cantrips that can be used increase the number of cantrips that they have. Basically the problem with people spamming firebolt can be viewed as "why use weapons when the firebolt is clearly better?". Ignoring that at low levels...