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No, no, those monsters are your friends. Which is why you keep them in small balls.

See, you keep getting it wrong. The stuff you call PS continuity is, in fact, just the 2e continuity. Not the continuity from one boxed set - the continuity from the core rules. Because the issue you keep bringing up is the description of the outsiders - which was laid out in the MM. If you...

I find it interesting that so many people seem to find the idea that WotC might have chosen to make a monster not a sentient infant so threatening to their liberties. Yes, if WotC decided to leave demons out of 5e there would have been outcry. If WotC had left fire snakes out of 5e, or made...

Except, again, what you are referring as "referencing PS" is what others call "maintaining continuity from 2nd ed forward." Your PS focus is your particular bugbear here.

I'm no expert, but I don't know that that's true. Off the top of my head, I know that the 3.5 information about Neogi strongly referenced Spelljammer, if not by name. And I don't remember anyone specifically changing beholders in or out of SJ. I think that the "Planescape occupies a...

I need a barghest. Someone convert one for me.

No, I think he just knows that from experience.

I'm getting the feeling that the principle you are defending has nothing to do with the original point. Since this is not a place for political discussions, ...

I don't think so highly of myself to imagine I'm the only person who noticed this. And I don't think that hoping no one notices a potential problem is a useful strategy for addressing a potential problem. I also don't think that blaming the whistle-blower for pointing out the problem is a...

How about this - instead of saying "no one can buy magic items" - say "you can't buy magic items". Because no one's selling them, because they're so valuable and rare that they have to hire you to get them. And then you can decide what you want to sell them for.

I consider this argument much more relevant, thank you. You have a point about where to draw the line. I submit that, in this particular case, no one would have noticed if they'd chosen otherwise. No one was clamoring for the inclusion of fire snakes in the MM. I doubt Shemeska would have...

Here, let's just post the link: Having-stats-for-every-stage-of-growth-encourages-killing-of-dragon-children So at least we can establish that, yes, some people other than the two of us have opinions on the idea of killing sentient children of other species.

OK, so we know that KarinsDad would be OK with a Monster Manual that lists hill giant toddlers on the encounter table. For the benefit of everyone else - I continue to find it surprising that a major publisher, interested in avoiding a negative reception, would make this particular choice.

So you're OK with killing baby orcs and goblins then? You don't know fire snakes are evil menaces. You know they have NE in their alignment box. Are you OK with killing random people on the street (in your game) because they have NE in their alignment box? Maybe they're just greedy. What...

To use an incredibly slippery-slope sort of argument: Many people in the gaming industry have argued that unconscionable acts (like slavery) should be an accepted part of their game world, because it's more "realistic". WotC, and other companies, make it clear that, regardless of real-world...

I don't remember that as the case, but I suppose I could be mistaken.

1. I didn't feel the need to rehash the explanation HardcoreDandDGirl already went over. 2. As I originally stated, the fact that you are dismissive the argument and don't see what we're saying - is what I find troubling. You really should see it. 3. Fiction holds a mirror up to reality...

This is exactly what I mean by attempts to dismiss the issue. A response like MoutonRustique 's shows thought and consideration of the issue. Yours is "who cares what you think?"

Again, none of what you describe is in the entry for the monster. You are projecting your pre-assumption (that it's OK to kill these monsters) to create a creature that fills your needs. Nothing about the fire snake requires it to be a newborn other than the desire to tie it to the salamander...

Except, again, this is just AD&D's version of the planes you're describing - not Planescape specifically.