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Or make the DC 14 spellcasting ability check.

I don't know that I would go that far, but if I can't get what I want then misery loves company. :p

Heckin' heck, why do these things always have to be driven by spite? Shouldn't the things we like be more important than the things we dislike? We've already had a couple of "Well, looks like the Wizard wins. sigh" but really it looks like the wind is blowing the other way. (Not pointing...

It's almost like they are three really good classes. (And 5e did a lot for the fighter so I guess they can stick around too.)

I mean, it did as of post 333; up until then it was looking pretty even. :p

Fighter 6 Rogue 10 Wizard 6

Cleric 13 Fighter 13 Paladin 10 Ranger 5 Rogue 12 - Downvoted because post 247 Wizard 11 - You get what I'm about at this point

Bard 3 Cleric 18 Druid 5 Fighter 15 Paladin 14 Ranger 13 Rogue 17 Warlock 3 - The most recent Wizard upvote was post 179, which downvoted Bards. Prakriti saves Bards at the last second by voting +Wizard/-Warlock. Wizard 24 - This is fun.

Bard 12 Cleric 23 Druid 11 Fighter 17 Paladin 18 Ranger 18 Rogue 14 Warlock 7 - The last Wizard upvote was post 132, which downvoted Warlock. Wizard 23 - Up you go!

Good to hear! For clarity, by "wizard supporter" I mean person to actually upvote the wizard.

Bard 15 Cleric 24 Druid 19 Fighter 19 Monk 11 Paladin 19 Ranger 17 Rogue 18 - As I said, the last wizard supporter downvoted Rogue, so I shall too. Maybe next time YOU (yes, you) can be the most recent wizard supporter. Warlock 18 Wizard 20 - Is the game made by Rangers of the Coast? No, I...

Barbarian 14 Bard 20 Cleric 21 Druid 19 Fighter 21 Monk 16 Paladin 18 Ranger 20 Rogue 20 Sorcerer 10 - I don't really dislike any class, so I gave lent my downvote to the most recent person to support my choice Warlock 18 Wizard 22 - Easily the best class

Dwarf 12 Elf 3 Half-elf 3 Halfling 4 Human 9 New rule, my downvote goes to whatever race was downvoted by the person who most recently upvoted humans!

It's not complicated, so we decided to make it complicated.

Meh, I was mostly talking about the residents of this forum and equating them with their race of preference, but I bet my post doesn't make sense from most perspectives anyway. Also, I never said you supported orcs, just that they are to blame; let us unify against the orcs! Yeah, a lot of...

Since when were you under the impression that humans were allied with the half-breeds? I mean, other than contributing to their existence by sleeping around, but elves and orcs are equally to blame.

Dwarf 18 Elf 15 Gnome 13 Half-elf 14 Halfling 5 Human 12

Dwarf 22 - I don't actually dislike dwarves, but nothing is really begging for my downvote. Elf 23 Gnome 14 Half-elf 22 Half-Orc 8 Halfling 14 Human 20 - Y'all killed off the tiefling, so now humans get my vote. You were warned.

Dwarf 21 - My players won't let me include these without an accent; you don't see this on other races! Eladrin 12 Elf 24 Gnome 16 Half-elf 24 Half-orc 20 Halfling 18 Human 23 Tiefling 10 - If one race could drag me away from that tasty +1 to all (or free feat if the DM knows what fun is), it...

Dragon Fear 6 Fade Away 4 Fey Teleportation 11