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Can you show me where it says you can just shove a creature on the list of valid actions in the "Actions in Combat" section of the Combat chapter of the PHB? That section provides the rules for what you can do on your turn, I've read it a bunch of times and I haven't seen anything that says you...

And we can simply let the PHB guide us to the correct answer here. The PHB talks about before and after. Movement can come before or after your action. Movement can come between weapon attacks, implying the attacks happen before and after the movement. The Ready action talks about the...

And we can simply let the PHB guide us to the correct answer here. The PHB talks about before and after. Movement can come before or after your action. Movement can come between weapon attacks, implying the attacks happen before and after the movement. The Ready action talks about the...

Why must it be A or B here? There's a third option C, which is simply this: the PHB defines what each action is. They are specific rules that apply to the action they are defining alone, and not general rules that apply to the whole game. I really think that this is where you've gone off the...

Why must it be A or B here? There's a third option C, which is simply this: the PHB defines what each action is. They are specific rules that apply to the action they are defining alone, and not general rules that apply to the whole game. I really think that this is where you've gone off the...

Again, can you please show me the words in the Attack action definition that explain where the attacks happen after or separately from the action itself? Or the rule that says two things can happen at the exact same time? Or that performing an action or bonus action is independent of the...

Again, can you please show me the words in the Attack action definition that explain where the attacks happen after or separately from the action itself? Or the rule that says two things can happen at the exact same time? Or that performing an action or bonus action is independent of the...

Sorry, I thought that was a reply to my post. I’ve asked them for the words supporting their “interpretation” so many times now, and haven’t ever gotten a straight answer.

Sorry, I thought that was a reply to my post. I’ve asked them for the words supporting their “interpretation” so many times now, and haven’t ever gotten a straight answer.

Please cite the text in the PHB that supports this idea. You can do what you like at your table, but this stuff isn’t really adding anything to the discussions about RAW.

Please cite the text in the PHB that supports this idea. You can do what you like at your table, but this stuff isn’t really adding anything to the discussions about RAW.

That might be how you play it at your table, but... that's absolutely not what the words in the PHB say. If it was worded like Extra Attack or Dread Ambusher, then sure, this would be a valid RAW interpretation. Fundamentally, bonus actions are separate and distinct from actions themselves...

That might be how you play it at your table, but... that's absolutely not what the words in the PHB say. If it was worded like Extra Attack or Dread Ambusher, then sure, this would be a valid RAW interpretation. Fundamentally, bonus actions are separate and distinct from actions themselves...

So the problem is that the latest SAC doesn’t use the word “intent” in either the War Magic or Shield Master answers?

So the problem is that the latest SAC doesn’t use the word “intent” in either the War Magic or Shield Master answers?

Once again, Ovinomancer has addressed the timing aspect, but I'd like to focus on this part in particular. What part of the wording of the Attack action makes you believe that the action is separate from the attacks it grants? Here's the entire action: That says quite clearly that with the...

Once again, Ovinomancer has addressed the timing aspect, but I'd like to focus on this part in particular. What part of the wording of the Attack action makes you believe that the action is separate from the attacks it grants? Here's the entire action: That says quite clearly that with the...

Please show me the text in the PHB that says the Attack action is separate from the attack(s) it grants. All I see is this: "With this action, you make one melee or ranged attack." and: "Beginning at 5th level, you can attack twice, instead of once, whenever you take the Attack action on...

Please show me the text in the PHB that says the Attack action is separate from the attack(s) it grants. All I see is this: "With this action, you make one melee or ranged attack." and: "Beginning at 5th level, you can attack twice, instead of once, whenever you take the Attack action on...

They didn't say the attacks themselves are simultaneous. They said the attacks happen as part of the Attack action, and that they are inseparable from that action. That is, the attacks occur at the same period of time that you are taking the Attack action, or, that they are simultaneous with...