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That's funny because the 2e book I quoted explicitly stated that alignment was not a straitjacket. So if that's the way it was being played at your table then it was being played incorrectly. At least you admit that that. On the other hand, I really don't understand why the alignments are...

Gygax didn't see things that way. He noticed that players would quickly forget that they were heros and do things no hero would ever do. I see it in my own games from time to time even with alignment. Thankfully, we have alignment in my game to remind players that they are role playing and...

This quote below (to the same reply you are responding to) makes it very clear that they want just that. True Neutral really is what most people do in real life. I mean, I can't think of any real life LG paladins or even CG Robin hoods for that mater. Of course, we are talking about a...

I wasn't replying to that comment. It was the other one about how it should just be tossed out. That's not how alignment works.

Alignment is not a straitjacket at all so I have to completely disagree. Alignment is just a simple guide for the players to keep a character/npc's ideals and belief structure in mind. It's basically a helpful abstraction that works very well IMO. It helps players and DMs role play against...

After reading this thread, I think it's clear that Dark Sun would not go over well with WotC. They would need to "FIX" it all for being too offensive. I think it's best left untouched. It's perfect the way it is. A 5e conversion document is all that is needed. Let WotC focus on...

When I read these arguments against alignment I can't help but think they want characters to do acts of evil or acts of good at anytime and without the need for any sort of justification. They are essentially arguing for everyone to be N or maybe even CN. In other words, you could simply...

yes, we need to burn those MM too. I'll start the fire.

Alignment is a nice way of summarizing an individual's beliefs and ideologies. For example, I usually pick Lawful Evil for a certain evil faction in my WW2 scenarios. I do recall playing in 5e with a paladin (player) who thought it was ok to torture a prisoner for information and then...

I agree, burn your books and dice. Just don't forget that dice scream sometimes.

There are many companies who are doing their best to rid themselves of these types of ideologies to various degrees. You don't see it yet, but it has already started. In fact, I think you will see a great divide in corporate policies across north america. Laws will be enacted on both sides...

I think this kind of Orwellian position is terrifying. The DIE religion really isn't great for business, in fact the company I'm working for recently gutted HR because of it.

It sounds like all the haters of things D&D are out in full force again. Didn't we already endure an entire edition of "Fix it all"? Apparently, that wasn't enough though, so lets just burn it all down and make 6e "a product of your non-offensive imagination" Thankfully, all the 5e core...

A True Neutral philosophy

When it comes to Alignment rules, I really don't read anything beyond the 2e DMG. It has everything a DM needs. All of these concepts have already been addressed decades ago. Society Alignment (2e DMG) Player characters, NPCs, and monsters are not alone in having alignment. Since a...

I understand your point, but the alignment of the First Order is clearly Chaotic Stupid.

As a Lawful Evil DM, when the players stop playing to their alignment I start deducting XP. So yes, the DM dictates what happens as far as alignment goes. Nothing new here.

gives me an idea. I might just remove all moral relativists and their true neutral gods from my game.

In my current FR campaign, I've modeled the Zhents around the Nazi's. I also have one NPC faction modeled on ISIS/Taliban. Of course I don't require a history book to create a great fantasy campaign. Even modeling your game world around the fantasy of Robert E. Howard (Conan the...

I've always understood hit points to have no default definition until they are used in the game. At that point they must remain what they are defined to be for the situation at hand. For example, if the DM says a goblin you didn't see hit you from behind with a poisoned crossbow bolt...