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Is there any hard data on this? I’ve had no trouble recruiting five ex 5e players to PF2, and they’ve never looked back. Again, I know people seem to love that game, but it’s had everything that made D&D interesting boiled off it, leaving us with bland blancmange. In that case did you try the...

This is a very good point. The martial niches in Pf2 are heavily protected. The obverse of having a sorcerer 'nearly as good at spear as a fighter' is having a fighter 'nearly as good at evocation' as a sorcerer. Why have classes at all?

Fair enough then. I was ready to have 5e hit my sweet spot but I find it incredibly bland and samey, to the point where character choices are borderline meaningless. (Though I’m clearly in the minority here.) I suppose we pick our poison.

This is true for all but the lightest of games. Within its paradigm, P2 gives tremendous customizing options. And using one or two of the rules variants in the GMG expands this still further. The benefit of this approach is that these customization decisions then become more than just ‘flavor’...

I’ve bought it and it looks fine. The art is very bland (disappointing) but the pawns are nice. The adventure is a bit meh. At best it should be easy to spice up without much tinkering. What I like most is the distillation of character creation and the distillation of the rules. These are...

Two things to preface. 1. I've only ever done 5e with a VTT, and that was Roll20. 2. When I do IRL play (my vastly preferred method), I encourage players to prepare their turns beforehand and to know their characters, no matter the system. I keep things snappy, with strict time-quanta. If a...

Some of these are pretty great ideas. I'm especially considering how to make wizards more fun. Maybe re-cast spells from their staves scalable by Intelligence or something.

Yes, system does absolutely matter. There are more than a few popular systems out there (I shall not name) that are extraordinarily bland and same-y. Interchangeable spells, powers, weapons, abilities, so on. A system provides the framework, and inspiration, for the power fantasy that players...

In some D&D settings, the cities are way too small. When I ran Eberron, I multiplied city populations by 10. The idea of a city of 200k having a vast and complex web of top-of-the-pyramid powerbrokers, huge guilds and crime syndicates, the capacity for powerful people to be anonymous, and miles...

Time is precious. People want to progress. I loathe endless fluffing around on each level as a player (a game isn't a job for pete's sake), and when I run games, I try to make sure players level up each session (though our sessions are long). I don't give story awards though. XP is awarded as...

It's more of the same: he's unhappy that the system offers too few mechanically optimal paths, and in a game that requires optimal play--I personally disagree but I'll yield that point--that gets boring. I mean, sure, okay. What baffles me is he's going all in on 5e to get less sameyness...

I don’t think the game is starting to feel bloated at all. Quite the reverse. I’m halfway through and it’s very clear this is a book of fluff—super basic stuff, lots of words but nothing added. At this stage, the samey-ness and blandness of dnd is really wearing me out. There’s no spice in the...

Well my experience has been people care less about the system and more about the other players and the gm. PF2 offers progressive values, neat concepts, great art, and new options, and that‘s what matters. We moved over because we quickly exhausted 5e’s scope and having to fudge a rule here or...

Looks really neat! I’ll pick one up and see if i might recommend it for new players.

Interesting. I've found, over 24 years of gaming, that it demonstrably is the case, and has been for every iteration of every game I've played. Sorry P2 didn't work out for you.

That seems excessive. My group never spends more than five minutes on this. Regardless, I think folks are putting too much burden for time wasteage onto the system. Much of the question of 'how much time do you spend bogged down' is determined by the people in your group. I've had extremely...

Yes, the pf2 subreddit is a really great, positive place and improving all the time.

I'm not a hundred percent convinced about this. The thing that makes 5e easy to access for time-poor gamers is that it's fundamentally devoid of complexity. People outgrow it. It took me about a year before I'd completely exhausted 5e and decided I was done with it. The question is whether P2...

Yeah, it was a variation on previous complaints about complexity, though the 4e video complaints had a dimension of ‘restrictiveness’ that was notably absent from the p2 video. The guy likes 5e. Nothing wrong with that. It’s good to like the thing everyone plays. (As I’ve mentioned before, I‘m...

I‘m very partial to the Oracle. Some of the curses are very fun to play indeed.