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To be clear, I'm not saying the publishers listed in this announcement are going to do that, I am stating that the next big step is doing that. WotC used the OGL for a very long time to protect itself from others, just as much as others used it to protect themselves from WotC. The next big step...

Yep. The big step is creating a copyright-legal version "SRD" and then putting it out via ORC. We'll see if that happens. joe b.

Well, lookie.... Paizo Announces System-Neutral Open RPG License https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6si7v

I hope we're advancing, but I'm more cautious. I worry that the delays are simply time for refinements of the message of "we're not going to change anything" to try and minimize the damage they intend to do. I would really like to be wrong. Really, really, would like it. joe b.

I wonder if changing from 1.1 to 2.0 may change all sorts of search/push algorithms and the change is being done in that way with something like that in mind? joe "suspicious" b.

I'm not a lawyer so...., but I've always understood it as a trial without a jury. (now, lets see how wrong I am.. :D ) joe b.

Hrm... Dancey and Glicker (at role for combat) talked about getting a bench judgement. Glicker said that after speaking with Dancey he spoke with several lawyers and he said that they all thought that a bench judgement was likely. It doesn't sound like any of the lawyers here think that. joe b.

To me, it seems like this is significantly more intense to me. joe b.

I certainly hope so. joe b.

Huh... looks like twitch stream cancelled? joe b.

They're refreshing the D&D Youtube page. https://www.youtube.com/@DNDWizards/videos joe b.

Well, that's just ugly. joe b.

Sounds like nothing substantive. If it's not in writing, I'm not really interested. Video is to persuade and influence not problem solve. It's a performance. joe b.

I dunno. I found the same person's following tweets in that thread ....tedious. Using the term "fearmongering" when it's immediately followed up with "you'll have to (consume my monetized product X) to see what I mean!" reeks of click-bait and makes me think that the the monetized-discussion is...

Heh... "Like an OD&D Halfling, I'm a Hobbit until the 6th printing"... joe b.

Thanks! I'll delete all my stuff then so it stays in that thread! joe b.

I have no idea what this is, but it intrigues me... Has anyone heard anything? (nevermind, it's in this thread: Brian Lewis, original legal drafter of the OGL, speaks out" joe b.

Thanks for all of your commentary. It's been educational, in that "you are not my client, this is not legal advice" way... :cool: joe b.

Question: Would WotC officially stating that all prior versions of the OGL (other than 1.1) are officially unathorized and that all OGC released under those licenses is now not open content be enough for a breach of contract suit against them? (assuming the OGL would be considered a contract, of...

IMO, the best case is WotC saying, "We phrased our intent poorly, and to demonstrate that, we're releasing a 1.0b OGL license that is the 10.a license that includes the word 'irrevocable'" If they did that, I believe much of the damage would be assuaged. Sadly, I think that is extremely...