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Oh man. This discussion is taking far too much of my time :) I try guys - I really try to see your points. However, I keep coming back to my initial point of view, which I've presented a few times earlier in this thread. I've read and understood your opinions, but I respectfully disagree. I hope...

I don't think anyone is using harmful stereotypes. What culture does orc and drow cultures remind you of? The only problem I see is that crazy ideas like this, takes the focus away from actual real-life racial issues.

Hey - I'm still mad about the THAC0 thing. Can you be a little sensitive about it please - I'm easily offended :) I guess I feel like orcs and drow should be monsters. Good orcs and drow should be very rare and outcasts. Humanity (in all it's forms) should be reserved for humans.

I meant inherently evil orcs and drows. I think most fans will eventually feel alienated, by these changes.

Obviously I'm expressing my personal opinion. You don't need to be elected for that where I come from. Also, this is part of a longer discussion with another user. I'm sad, that the d&d mythology is changing, because of something, that is unrelated to the game. I think a lot of people believe...

I have no evidence off course, but I still don't believe that people are TRULY hurt by the fact that orcs and drow are evil in d&d. People are truly hurt by watching racist police brutality in a democracy. People are truly hurt by watching homosexuals being persecuted or worse. People are...

I agree - but this is not the thing to do :)

Please don't use a strawman like in your last sentence - you're better than that :) I think it's the same thing. People in the 80's were also hurt by the fact, that d&d had demons and the game's focus on the occult in general. However, only a few of these actually played the game. I honestly...

I agree. Rules and mythology evolves. It's the reason for this change in d&d mythology, that I don't like. It reminds me of how they changed "demons" and "devil's" in 2nd edition. I think we're witnessing the second coming of the satanic panic from the 80's.

Is it April 1st? How is this going to change anything related to real-world problems with racism? IMO they're changing the game I love for absolutely no reason. Sad news indeed..

No. It really doesn't

True - but it has absolutely nothing to do with dungeons and dragons

It seems the satanic panic from the 80's have gotten a new face for the 2020's... sad news. It truly doesn't take much to offend certain people

Unfortunately, political correctness have taken over the world.

Mr. Miyagi

You're quite right of course! Does anybody know how many tabletop rpgs are being played online compared to games being played in people's houses, in shops or at conventions? I'm guessing most games are still being played in "offline". I might be wrong though?

I honestly don't believe that virtual tabletop is the future of d&d. Getting some friends together in the same room for a few hours is what d&d is all about.

I know and I agree - I was just joking!

Are you aware that corporate bean counters are very often Lawful Evil? I'm with Gyor on this one :)

Since all I want is more monsters, I definitely prefer Paizos route. I would save $6 and get more of what I want!