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Good one. I love me some good old fashion American lore Heck even real people like Jessie James and doc holiday get larger then life stories Davie Crocket too I am LOTH to admit it but those are the chuck norise jokes of there time.

They want survey feed back but make no mistake they are listen to general attitudes (maybe not having someone here) they know when people are unhappy before the survey results are in BUT they won’t know how many or how much is echo chamber makeing few voices louder.

What ever you call it changling vlass for abilities (pact magic and bard inspire) makes the game less backwards compatible no matter what we call it

I would not mind that either. Stats don’t effect it skill does or an either or thing… you can add your dex or prof what ever is better type.

I know there are things they can do that would change MY mind. I can’t talk for others.

Back in the 90s I was useing vampire and mage rules to house rule into 2e.

Good pull. Thank you for word for wording it. This is why some call it mother may I.

So nothing that goes against your view Um… this board is full of loud people yelling to trust WoTC (except when they say things they don’t like then don’t trust them) Oh I see the bias

I play at tables full of DMs. Not all of us but 2/3 or more. We outsource everything as needed. With Roll20 we don’t need someone to run initative anymore and monster hp can be tracked in tokens. However rules questions and even some personal calls get out sourced or workshopped. World...

Either one is fine by me. Call it 5.5 (or something) or make it actually back compatable by doing pact magic and bardic inspiration with smaller changes. Lol

Maybe we could just start all discussions assuming that people we disagree with are just disagreeing not being liers and dosengenuas.

Paliden (well god really) Multi class martial artist (monk) theif detective (rogue) warrior (fighter) inventor (artificer) could almost do it. Super solder (no class to work with in 5e in 4e warlord in 3.5 warblade/marshal) Knight and king (nothing in 5e but again warlord or swordsage/marshal...

And Morris just pointed out that half (about) of enworld and slightly more than 2/3 of Twitter see it as a new edition. If this is true WoTC needs to find a way to fix it or no matter what they say it will be.

Memeificaton is a thing. The best movie gets a honest trailer and a movie sins about it and people hear that something didn’t make sense. People take that and seen the movie or not spread it (even if it started as a joke) then people see others spread it that didn’t even see the joke video, now...

And for some of us the argument of “it doesn’t matter I can fix it myself or pay for a book from 3rd party to fix it” falls flat like why not just ask them to fix it before it comes out?

Arthur has multi knights that can do amazing superhuman things

We need to take a page from 4e and make saves and Ac best of 2 stats then let everyone pick any stat for attacks and damage. Then dex being 1/2 AC and 1/2 most common save and initative won’t be so bad

Nobody thinks anyone started but the other side.

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It is a martial exploit that is from a heroic warrior. If we have to take what WoTC says then that is what they said