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It is a joke from one of the dragon magazine comic strips. It might be dork tower or it might be knights of dinner table.

I don’t think you get the joke reference I was making. It was an old comic strip. Maybe knights of dinner table or maybe dork tower I’m not even sure

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I think it just goes round and round like when people make the LotR Gandalf argument… “how do we know Gandalf is powerful, because he beat the belrog .” “How do we know the belrog is powerful it took Gandalf to beat him”

I actually had to make it up. The game just gives them all spell casting. It might as well be “mysterious forces”.

I want your DM handing out legendary and better items all the time on 20th level characters. Although an armor artificer or hexblade with a feat could do all that with an average of 22 less hp. And still have all the spells including weapon attack cantrips.

In 2e one good hit could drop a wizard that didn’t have the right spells. And that was true through 20th level. The wizard could not respec to tank or do melee at all. The complaints I normally heard were about multi and duel class fighter wizards having their cake and eating it too. In my...

Magic of song magic of the soul magic of the mind but all still similar in spells. And sell yourself for power

That is something people said and got mocked for

Flavor is like Beauty and art. In the eye of the beholder. Also magic doesn’t work when that beholder eye is on you.

I’m sorry do you believe that the barbarian can throw a horse over a 15 ft reviven now?!?!

So at 1st level you can atwill knock someone back with your shield stup up following them and attack at will. At 20tg level you can do the same but at 3w. At 1st level once per short rest you can make an attack with advantage and once per day you can make 3 attacks. At 20tg level you have a...

I mean GOO doesn’t name an entity it’s just “something old and mysterious “. Even fey and infernal pacts are “something vague fey and something vague demon or devil.” The patrons are as vague or as spesfic as the campaign dictates.

We have low level wizards druids bards ect. They grow in power and versatility as they level. A mythic warrior would look a lot like them.

Through riseing above through training and experience

Why do I need to justify what I want but other people can say what they want?

Wait +2 of the best armor in the game is bad?!?

It is about wanting WoTC to fix this in 1d&d

I have not seen that request. I have seen mine and other to have a martial class on par with a full casters for options and abilities

Do you not realize the thread you are in is not one about fighters or wizards those are just examples. It is about removing magical dependency. That is the name of what we are in talking. So yes I am talking about removing magic depending things.