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Historically, there's this concept that once hidden you can move sneakily, moving into areas where they'd be able to see you if you weren't keeping to the shadows, etc. Mechanically, it's also to give rogues something to do with their bonus action so they can hide then attack and get advantage...

No. It's entirely a Forgotten Realms invention.

The old Stealth rules worked that way, but then the 2024 rules spent a lot of time trying to define hiding more strictly!

I just pointed out the Invisibility condition and Hide action to a friend who is even more of a rules lawyer than me. One of his comments: "Nowhere does the 'invisible' condition state that you can't be seen." Huh. So the invisibility spell... grants you advantage on initiative checks and...

Font size was also a MAJOR component of this. It increased, and so they didn't have as much more room as you'd think. (Also Art).

They were better in some aspects, and worse in others. And as I noted earlier in the thread, there were some abilities (the wood elf's) that made me think that perhaps they originally were more like the 2024 ones and then changed to what we had. Part of my problem with the 2024 rules is just...

Problem is that it reads well, and then you try to unpack "find" and "line of sight". :) Three-Quarters Cover and no line-of-sight -- not really compatible. Find -- what exactly does that mean? Once you can determine how you want to handle it, it runs okay, but two DMs can be very different...

Yeah, I can say there was a lot of stomping in this adventure when I ran it with four. (Although I did kill PCs later on during one particular episode...) But yes - the later levels feel a lot more earned, even if you run the events quickly. Cheers!

Nitpick time! :) A character who has 3/4 cover is not out of line of sight of another creature (by definition). :) For the 2024 rules, hidden is a bit weird. Potential rewrite: Hidden (condition): A hidden creature cannot be currently seen by any enemies. When a creature is Hidden to another...

You don't need to do that, because it just stays Ice Devil. See the Fungus entry: Gas Spore Fungus Shrieker Fungus Violet Fungus Violet Fungus Necrohulk Two of those changed names and got "Fungus" added. And, in case you thought it had to be consistent about where the group word was, here's...

Can we rewrite the Stealth rules to be clearer while still allowing DM's to use their judgement? Yeah, definitely. I do think there's a trend in the 2024 rules for making rules simpler (see monster attacks with saves, for instance), but in certain cases the results have not been good. So, the...

Opaquely. :) More clearly: see this thread on reddit: Vision Cone Now let's get the obvious out of the way. When you're outside of everyone's vision cone, you can stay stealthed as long as you want without any check -- everybody knows that. Now the weird part is when you're standing within...

I've played a LOT of Assassin's Creed & The Last of Us part 2 in the last couple of years. Yeah, I agree entirely. The thing is, that I think that just adding the text that says "or if the DM rules the creature is distracted or not looking in your direction" would do massive things to fix it...

They changed it during the playtest and (from what I've read in the Big Stealth Thread) then never took feedback about the change. (The reason this thread exists is partly because I just noticed the interaction, and partly because the full rules weren't out back then!) Cheers!

If a hidden character approaches a monster while there's mist about (lightly obscured), does their hidden state automatically end, require an active Search action, or rely on passive Perception to end? It's that sort of in-between area that I'd rather like better rules for.

Well, it was called that (Hidden) until they decided to change it during the playtest.

Notice how they're all renamed. It's not "Duodrone" any more... it's "Modron duodrone". That allows the grouping together. Cheers!

The reason they're not grouped together is they "couldn't" rename them to all contain their "group" word/phrase. No idea why not, given some of their other changes. So, not "solar angel" it's still a solar. Meanwhile, the "rug of smothering" became a "animated rug of smothering", and the...

Not bisible! I know where I've gone wrong now! ;) Yeah, and if the 2024 rules had that text, I'd feel a lot better. They don't. And it's a subject that warranted further discussion in the 2024 DMG. The fact is that there are systems - like Pathfinder 2 - that have better text covering it...

Not in the PHB. Huh. I hate the organisation of these rules!