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    XP as dated?

    XP vs. fiat is another aspect of freedom vs. security, in that players like plenty of assurance that their victories are truly earned and significant. I err to security on this one, since I don't feel that the freedom payoff is enough to be worth it. The numbers are hard to keep track of, but...
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    Not D&D

    My favorite would be Microlite20. The game and the community are meshed as one, and both are extremely easy to enter, imaginative, and unassuming. And it's got something like rule 34 going on- if you can imagine it, there are rules for it, whether 'it' is cowboys, mecha, Star Wars, pony PCs, or...
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    What influenced you to start gaming?

    Third Edit: keep thinking of more. My grandfather. He never gamed, but he owns a massive (1500+) collection of books with plenty of SF&F in it. He read me The Hobbit when I was around six (he's the kind of guy that loves telling stories with trolls and such to small children). He introduced me...
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    My PCs are horrible people!

    I don't see much difference between comedy games and serious games. It doesn't matter if the world is filled with robot monkeys, and the players are fighting zombie chickens, it can still be serious (I like to cite Samurai Jack). And it doesn't matter how grim the situation is, there can still...
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    My PCs are horrible people!

    But is it then okay for one person to selfishly demand that others change their roleplaying style (which they are apparently having fun with) because it doesn't suit their tastes? Nobody is holding anyone to my standard. I would support players trying to run a game as much as I would...
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    My PCs are horrible people!

    @ Barastrondo So, can we agree that the OP should try not to worry too much about PC morality, and maybe try sitting on the other side of the screen with an amoral PC to view both sides of the argument?
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    D&D 5E (2014) Who's given up on D&D Next?

    Lanefan what I mean is that save-or-suck and/or save-or-die being included aren't really huge things to me. 3e had them, too.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Who's given up on D&D Next?

    I'm going to go ahead and edit some of my earlier statements into the original post, so people will stop posting assuming that I'm trying to declare edition war on a game still in development.
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    My PCs are horrible people!

    So am I. I never took the two of them into a dungeon. I know what a gentleman's gentleman is, having read plenty of Dumas, Munchausen, and Heinlein. I still don't care about NPCs nearly as much as my character or any of the other characters in the party. Many of the other players also have...
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    My PCs are horrible people!

    As a player I have done similar things, but just wait and see how many of the players care about that bandit when it's him or one of them. I could see someone making the plunge in a game with easily available raise dead, or where new characters come in at the same level. The games I've played...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Who's given up on D&D Next?

    Save-or-suck is modern too, in the way that keys are modern; 3e had it. Even with save-or-die, I'm still feeling pessimistic. Mike and Monte seem like okay guys, but I'm not harboring a lot of hope. Vancian magic is the sort of thing that I'd get pissed about leaving out, but not really be...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Who's given up on D&D Next?

    I'm not giving up on the hobby, or the D&D brand. I don't want D&D Next to fail. I don't want to rant about how awful 5e is going to be. I don't want to criticize anyone's personal taste or opinion. I don't think that D&D Next is going to fail. I have decided to just play the games I've been...
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    My PCs are horrible people!

    You know, I think I have actually seen a bit of PC caring. One cleric I played with actually decided not to rob a group of merchants offering a reward for capturing some highwaymen. And I suppose I regularly pay my henchmen- extravagantly, in terms of how much I actually use them. My point is...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Who's given up on D&D Next?

    I thought I put it in General RPG... could have been moved. I would have to be incredibly trollish to say "you know, I've pretty much given up any hope of agreeing with anyone in that forum" in said forum.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Who's given up on D&D Next?

    I'm seeing flaws with the car because the designers want to build another 21st century car, but I want a classic-style muscle. There is a crowd of other people voicing their opinions, and most of them are agreeing with the designers, or wanting it even farther from my ideal. I'm giving up on the...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Who's given up on D&D Next?

    My character does a lot of things I wouldn't do- the last one died trying to intimidate a salesman of magical pyrotechnics into lowering his prices.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Who's given up on D&D Next?

    Dice4Hire Next forums are even worse, and probably listened to more. The problem, I feel, is that with the complexity of the game, Wizards can't possibly be expected to fit both sides of any given argument in as optional rules (the best solution), so one side is going to get shafted. People...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Who's given up on D&D Next?

    It sounded like a good idea at first. I thought that I might be able to just house-rule out the stuff I don't like and house-rule in stuff I do, and get something not too far from the system. Looking around, though, I really don't think it will be possible to unite the fractured fanbase this...
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    My PCs are horrible people!

    That's my point. I have never known anybody to care about NPCs unless they were a DM or the NPCs in question were valuable henchmen. It is really impossible to create NPCs that are even half as detailed as PCs, because each PC has the player's personality behind it, whereas you have to play all...
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    My PCs are horrible people!

    I'm speaking here as someone who once had much the same problem, and a Christian who recently had a renewal of faith via The Screwtape Letters. I was once frustrated by the amorality of the characters my players portrayed (this was before my 'renewal of faith'). I got so frustrated that I...
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