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But these are also the rules used in high fantasy, techno-fantasy, and every other genre Daggerheart is used for... its not specific to a grimdark game, its generic to any Daggerheart game. Just to be clear I'm not arguing Daggerheart as a more narrative generic/but not really generic fantasy...

So you can... choose to survive when you'd normally die by paying hope... that's not really grimdark imo Taking rests gives the GM fear... but how hard are combats, how often will an average group have to rest, etc. How is this more or less suitable for grimdark campaigns without further...

I guess anything can be grimdark... but, at least from the videos, materials, etc. I've seen (my actual copy of the game will be here sometime today) default Daggerheart doesn't really seem tuned for grimdark. It's not that rabbit people couldn't be grimdark... its more how much does base...

This sounds like it's not so much capable of running a Soulsborne campaign as being high heroic fantasy with a Soulsborne coat of paint. Hmmm... this feels like the same thing D&D gets slack for doing with other genres. I wonder why this would be the first framework they showcase as opposed to...

Maybe someone familiar with the Daggerheart rules can answer this question but what mechanically makes Daggerheart a game that is well suited for grimdaek fantasy? To be honest I've gotten a totally different picture (tonally) of the game.

Ok... my experience with Daggerheart specifically is non-existent, though I have ordered it... I thought the question was specifically about having a problem with narrative mechanics... which would be codified, right? Or did I misunderstand? I think perhaps we should give some examples of the...

I think alot of players and DM's divy up narrative control in D&D implicitely, without rules and not necessarily as the game suggests. I think it's a natural outcome of playing almost any ttrpg. 1. I think there are ttrpg's that codify and enforce how narrative control is divided between the...

Couldn't you just fluff it as an ability from your past and limit your usage to one creature if using 2024... What downsides are you seeing to the change?

Another improvement 2024 core implemented...Sometimes it really is the little things that make the game better as a whole.

Uhm... but older editions of D&D did/do cater to low magic play. I'm not sure what you're expecting here, it's a forum... you posted and I commented my thoughts... to which I received alot of unnecessary snark and hostility I feel like because I dared to question your take. Well if you don't...

Yeah I'm going to step away from this convo... apparently my questions have in some way offended you (Or you've just decided to take a hostile tone) so since I was asking mostly out of curiosity, I'm good on going further with this line of discussion. Have a nice day. Edit: Also you might...

I think the question then becomes... were you and your players desires aligned? I wonder this whenever I see a DM who is dissapointed that the game does not force incentivize a player into roleplaying But was that the type of game your players wanted? You keep speaking from your wants or...

Ah ok, yeah I sometimes forget many people don't have stable groups... I've been gaming with my core group of players since we were kids and it's given me the ability to be able to play many various games even though our staple is still the D&D long form campaign.

Do you only play D&D? I think this is a weird sentiment for me because while I run D&D more than any other rpg... we do intersperse our groups play with other ttrpg's. I think if all I played was D&D I'd be bored in 10years as well... but I feel like that would be true of any other ttrpg as well.

I actually think the '24 PHB is a much better book for new players than the '14...in fact I think the '24 corebooks in general are a better onramp into 5e than the '14 books were. Organization, examples, layout, & reference usability are all improved. Edit: I also think there's quite a few DM's...

It sounds like you wanted a reprint with eratta... not a revised edition. Edit: This is basically what later printings of the core '14 books already were... outside of new art you had this already.

I'm still unclear on what your idea of backwards compatibility entails. Can you explain what a system being revised and backwards compatible means to you... even better would be an example of a ttrpg that meets your criteria.

Cool. Thanks for explaining.... I dont agree with the reasoning but I at least understand the situation now... because i really wasn't getting it.

I'm asking for a statement where WotC mislead their consumers on the amount of support they would be offering for 2014 after '24 was released. I get if you didn't like their initial plan... and i give them props for responding to feedback, but where is the negativity around their actions coming...

Is there a record of this? Not saying I dont believe you but if it was stated many times it should be easy to finds statement and a quick Google search didn't return anything.