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I don't hate 5e, so if they had taken some of the lessons the 4e developers had learned about how to frame and present a set of game rules, I would probably quite like it. I would still find 5e combat fairly dull though. I agree about the problem of modularity, and the challenge of having...

I don't really follow the point of disagreement here. I am not dismissing all criticisms of 4e as invalid, or based solely on presentation, and I don't think anyone else here is. Hopefully that's clear. I even have several criticisms of 4e myself. I do maintain there was quite a lot of prominent...

I was literally replying to someone who challenged that anyone had ever said that. Whether the point is correct or not is a separate issue. Honestly this whole discussion is so unnecessarily fractious. I think it's useful to consider what worked well in previous editions when considering what...

By less accessible do you mean e.g. for visually impaired people? Or is it that tactical combat supposedly makes the game harder. I'd probably disagree with the latter - lots of people are quite familiar with board games and might well find that more accessible than theatre-of-the-mind combat.

Getting back on topic, I'd like to see the next edition properly support tactical exploration and combat, which thanks to online gaming is now easier than it ever was in 4e's day.

Seems to me some people are agreeing, but either way I'm not sure that is strong evidence of anything.. However, while I don't think I specifically made such a claim, I'm sure it is true that many people did dislike 4e's presentation and some of them would have liked it if it had been...

Right in this thread people were saying 5e was largely a 3e-style presentation of 4e, as an explanation for why it appealed to certain people.

There seems to be confusion about the difference between detailed mechanics and overall approach when it comes to editions. For my part, I don't think 5e is particularly closer at a low level to 3e or other previous editions than it is to 4e - and as this discussion has shown it's not easy to...

People often say that and I've seen 5e described as a partial evolution of 4e. For me as a 4e player it feels like far more was thrown out than kept. I realise they didn't literally go back to 3e but they fundamentally changed (and reverted) several things beyond the tactical engine, such as...

They started to do this with Essentials but the 'not-my-D&D' mob just got even more vocal. I could certainly see a stripped down version of 4e, with the same game engine but less bloat (i.e. not like 13th Age, which threw out too much), being an amazing game. But that alas is a road they chose...

4e fan here.. Without wanting to be divisive, I'll admit to some schadenfreude over the last few years at seeing some of the folks who trashed 4e and trumpeted 5e as a return to the editions of their youth realise that in fact it's moving even further away in many directions.. :)

DM-ing a group through Reavers of Harkenwold right now. The party has just dispatched the wizard Yisarn in Dal Nystiere. I can honestly say it's the best published D&D campaign I've ever played or run..

I'm a 4e fan and I really like Essentials. I'm running a campaign with Essentials classes right now and they are great - particularly for players new to 4e. The main thing I think it is missing is rituals - these in my view were one of the shining strengths of 4e. But they are no difficulty...

Still playing 4e; works excellently on Roll20 (or other vtt). My favourite D&D edition by far. I really don't think you need the digital tools at all; character generation is pretty straightforward if you don't try and bring in all the available options for every class at 1st level. Sold most...

Since the Appendices cover much of what we know about the TA, particularly the story of the Realms in Exile, I don't think that restriction would preclude a setting in the mid TA: an exciting time when the declining Arnorian successor states were warring with each other and with Angmar, and a...

Indeed; my point is that I find this a much less interesting time period to set adventures in Middle-earth, compared to earlier in the Third Age. The world is so empty and barren, particularly if one takes a minimalist approach to extrapolating locations and sites, as C7 tended to do. Perhaps...

This looks beautiful but I'll be waiting for the 5e version. I had all the TOR stuff at one point but didn't really like the system, and I think this is essentially the same as 1e in most respects. I still think that this is the wrong time period in which to set a Middle-earth rpg, but probably...

I like drivethrurpg but their mobile site is pretty terrible. Wish they would either retire that or fix it.

I'm very interested in this. Two big positives for me are 1. This isn't a wholly new system; the WOIN system has been out for a while so initial bugs etc are likely to have been caught, and I think it works well. 2. The art will, presumably, be taken mostly from the original comics. (Is this the...

Can you reveal where you were able to turn off thread notifications? Not obvious to me in the settings page. I really think the default should not be to send any emails at all except perhaps regarding admin issues. The current behaviour, in which it seems by default I am mailed every time...