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Here's the philosophy, I think - Outside a "skill challenge" you can make single checks and rolls. You come to a locked door in a dungeon, the rogue moves up and unlocks it. Bam, Thievery check, no problem. However, a "skill challenge" is specifically a challenge designed to engage all the...

Well, only if you feel that 3.5E was like [another generic food metaphor]. [Exposition on the comparabilities of the foods, using "proof by analogy" to make a point.] You're hardly addressing: [bulleted list of specifics] I think they did it just fine. It's like a combination of [personal...

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Exactly. Good game design is good game design. There are several reasons behind WoW's success, and one of the major ones is playability and balance. *gasp* 4E "borrows" from WoW not to become more like a MMORPG, but because WoW has showcased basic tenets of good game design. As has Settlers...

Imaro, you are correct. It is absolutely true, that in some situations there is no reason to not have a particular character "roll all the checks." If the rogue is the only one with training in Thievery, with the highest bonus to that skill, going up against an open lock, why not have the...

I totally have a new signature.

It would also be unfortunate to have a warforged in the party.

Spinachcat - Thank you for the encouraging words. I hated not having the time to prepare, but like I said, I only decided to run a demo at the very last minute. Considering the reactions from the players, I definitely consider it a win. I was just so surprised that it even turned out as a...

I just got back from playing an extremely mediocre, not half-bad, okay-ish game of D&D 4E. I've been keeping up with every little bit of information released by Wizards, and have been wanting to really play some 4E. A couple weeks ago I managed to get into the last hour or so of a Demo at my...

This is how I interpret it. All we know, and all that matters from an encounter building standpoint, that a "Level 6 Whatever" will have a +9 attack bonus. What sums up to create that attack bonus does not matter. It could be from a +2 sword, and +7 from somewhere else, or an ordinary sword...

Wow, this thread took quite an effort to slog through. Here's my contribution: granularity. First, physics of the real world, our world, is granular. The easiest and popular example is Newtonian versus Relativity. Both are "correct," despite being differing theories. Newtonian physics...

It does not look similar to various MMOGs on the market. Seriously, you can find elements of most of the rule changes hidden in the House Rules and Homebrew forums from the past ten years. Not to mention that other changes are based on simple good game design theory, of which other games...

Clever. :) I like it.

Well, I am looking forward to this gnolledge.

Simulationism lost because the Deathmatch did not simulate the physics of combat accurately.

For those running the demos, now, any new information to add regarding the specifics of Skill Encounters?

You know what? You're completely right. Reading (and re-reading) the original post, as well as the responses, I admit that I was overreacting and totally out of line. CleverNickName - It seems unfortunate that 4E, as we know it now, is not a good match for your current group. I hope the...

Voicing frustration, for which I apologize. But I've become frustrated with straw men. I've read the post, and the thread, since then. But your post has nothing to do with 4E. It is an experience dealing with introducing players to a new game with preconceived expectations. I could take...

I stopped reading here. Why post at all?