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  1. Trickster Spirit

    D&D 5E (2014) So what exactly is Wizards working on?

    You've just driven home for me why I get so irritated by statements like "You'd have a point if it were just me, but there's lot of us", implying that WotC better get it's act together and satisfy the complainers or they're toast. It's exactly the tone people take when the gripe about it taking...
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    D&D 5E (2014) So what exactly is Wizards working on?

    They've more than made their money back with the three core books, though. You have to spend money to make money (pay all the writers, editors, and artists and pay for printers, distribution and inventory space), and it looks like they've decided it's easier to just do less of all that and yes...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Reasons Why My Interest in 5e is Waning

    This comes down to the timescale argument I mentioned previously. Let's say Wizards stops putting out D&D products entirely after Princes of the Apocalypse comes out. No rpg books, no board games, no video games, no Salvatore novels even. It'll have zero impact on the success or failure of a...
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    D&D 5E (2014) So what exactly is Wizards working on?

    Why are you worried about whether WotC will miss out on your money? Do you routinely complain that the manufacturer of your recently purchased refrigerator isn't selling add-on drawers and additional ice-maker options after six months? Do you buy a new car and find yourself worrying about Ford's...
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    D&D 5E (2014) So what exactly is Wizards working on?

    Oh jeez, not this thread again. I'll ask you once more - what would it change if the answer is "nothing"? Would you quit playing 5E? Start wrestling with the answer to that question, since "Princes of the Apocalypse" is all they are prepared to share with you at this time.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Reasons Why My Interest in 5e is Waning

    The thing is, people who have never heard of Magic Missile have never heard of Pathfinder, either. Or WoD, or FATE, or any other tabletop RPG. If they're even aware that tabletop RPGs exist (thank you, Futurama / Big Bang Theory / Community), they lump them all together as D&D. Look at...
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    D&D 5E (2014) A Board Game style Release Schedule

    Wow, left this thread for an evening and every response since has made some great points - I agree with them all! Rather than quoting everyone, I'll just state that yes, I'm certain they'll re-release the core books with changes, though that might just be limited to legitimate typo corrections...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Reasons Why My Interest in 5e is Waning

    I'm not saying it won't be the case in the future, but at present there are no Pathfinder players who have never heard of D&D. There might be plenty of players who have only ever played Pathfinder and not D&D (I myself was one of them until 5E came out), but even the casual players know about...
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    ELEMENTAL EVIL Player's Companion - FREE!

    Sailor Moon, I have a question for you I would honestly like to know the answer to. You've made it abundantly clear that you're not satisfied the support 5E has received to date. I'm convinced that moving forward, 5E will receive essentially the level of support we've just seen - two big...
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    D&D 5E (2014) A Board Game style Release Schedule

    Heh, my point exactly. It's a good thing I like 5E so much, I quite like the idea of it being the last-ever D&D edition. Of course, I'm envisioning that to mean "5E content every six months in perpetuity" rather than "mothballing the brand entirely for good", but I'm an optimist, so sue me.
  11. Trickster Spirit

    D&D 5E (2014) Reasons Why My Interest in 5e is Waning

    Oh, totally. But I'd go see a blockbuster Pathfinder movie even if Paizo abruptly canceled the RPG line and limited it to the card game and MMO (neither of which I care about). I'd see a Pathfinder movie because I'm a fan of D&D-ish fantasy, not because of anything to do with RPG companies'...
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    D&D 5E (2014) A Board Game style Release Schedule

    Which of course raises the question of what WotC's goals are for D&D. That's what this whole debate is really about, since of course if they were trying to maximize revenue from RPG book sales they would in fact be following the Universe B model, while in the real world they are not. Looking at...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Reasons Why My Interest in 5e is Waning

    Understood. For what it's worth, I'd love to see more than what's on that schedule myself - I'll join you calling for more 5E material. I'm not convinced that Wizard's will find it worth their time to listen to us, though. Sorry, I probably shouldn't have used the phrase "slow and steady wins...
  14. Trickster Spirit

    D&D 5E (2014) A Board Game style Release Schedule

    Reading the last several pages of this thread has been extremely tiresome and so I shall endeavor to ignore them. Instead, thought experiment time! Let's assume two parallel universes: Universe A, where after the core three books are released, Wizards of the Coast never again releases another...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Reasons Why My Interest in 5e is Waning

    Sure thing. They've not formally announced a second adventure path for 2015 yet but have said they're planning on two a year. Optimized for what? Optimized for number of products to support a game line? Sure. But what schedule do you go with if you're optimizing for not declining over...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Reasons Why My Interest in 5e is Waning

    Well, we're talking about the future here - nothing is a foregone conclusion! WotC could absolutely botch it, and Paizo could weather criticism beautifully and respond to it beautifully such that Pathfinder becomes the undisputed pen and paper RPG king and D&D is but a distant afterthought. But...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Reasons Why My Interest in 5e is Waning

    I suspect 5E will still be in the top spot. Paizo's bread and butter are the APs, but their rules splatbooks crossed the "bloated" marker quite some time ago. I have no trouble believing Paizo's spring 2017 AP could compete neck and neck with whatever spring 2016 AP Wizards puts out, but I...
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    D&D 5E (2014) A Board Game style Release Schedule

    This has been a recurring question for a few pages now - perhaps it would help us avoid talking past each other if we can mutually agree on a shared definition of "support". We all have our preferred type of support, but if we go with a basic "anything that's not the core books that adds to...
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    ICv2 Fall/Winter 2014 Hobby Game Rankings: D&D Up To #1

    Care to make a wager of it? Say, the D&D or Pathfinder hardcover of the winner's choice, going to you if Pathfinder over takes D&D in ICv2's Q1 2015 rankings, and to me if D&D keeps the top spot? (I won't pick an expensive out-of-print book if you won't!) Having typed that out, it feels like a...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Light release schedule: More harm than good?

    You, sir, must have one heck of a CON modifier.
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