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  1. Bagpuss

    D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

    But there are plenty of tribal groups in D&D that aren't evil, brutish, stupid, etc and have detailed cultures, so what is your problem? Admittedly they don't all fit in the PHB, but D&D has a massive history across multiple campaign settings, to think that tribal is only used for evil races...
  2. Bagpuss

    D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

    They haven't even been able to achieve the same level until 3rd Edition, And they haven't had the same intellectual capacities until 5th edition, in fact not until updates to this edition.
  3. Bagpuss

    D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

    What makes you think, it applies to a whole species? The PHB doesn't have room to speak about the entire species, so it talks in general terms. If read in a text book that the British enjoy tea, do you assume every single person living in Britain enjoys tea, or do you assume the majority do?
  4. Bagpuss

    D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

    Or a more recent one The Scully Effect on women in STEM fields, which wasn't intended as propaganda.
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  6. Bagpuss

    D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

    Really? You see any issues that someone could take with any of the stuff you wrote? Smarter than apes, less intelligent than player species (int 7). They would be classed as beasts, not humanoids. So black slaves have never been compared to smart apes, or being non-human? Unable to speak (or...
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  8. Bagpuss

    D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

    It isn't a fair analogy, you need to show malice intent for D&D to be acting as the bully in this instance. There is no evidence this was done to harass or harm like in your example. The evidence that it even is a caricature of the victim is slim and circumstantial at best. In this thread, in...
  9. Bagpuss

    D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

    You are just recreating the "problem", at some point anything you create someone will say is a reflection of prejudices to X marginalized group and the process starts again.
  10. Bagpuss

    D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

    No it is important to understand these are fictional tools to represent "an aspect of ones own self", not a real-life human culture, or people. Once you realise they are a fictional tool and not a racist depiction the problem goes away. If you humanize them and make they rounded and complex...
  11. Bagpuss

    D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

    So not human then, just reflection, limited aspects of humanity. Archetypes are like analogies. They tend to be fixed, so not the full range of human experience like I was saying.
  12. Bagpuss

    D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

    If they are us why bother having non-human species at all in RPGs. Clearly they aren't us otherwise they would be human.
  13. Bagpuss

    D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

    Are you talking about Stone Age humans or Orcs, because I can agree that your Stone Age human, intellect wise is probably capable of living in a modern world, our knowledge comes form culture and education, how much the brain has evolved since then is likely very small. You can't say the same...
  14. Bagpuss

    D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

    No it's a feature that every species views outsiders with some level of distrust, that each species (and or their culture) has some flaws, they aren't "scumbags" or "worthless, terrible people" for not being perfect.
  15. Bagpuss

    D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

    That would be like IVF rather than natural reproduction (and heck we are talking about the same species so no massive hurdles to jump). So it often fails, and only makes up about 1% to 2% of births in the USA where the technology is readily available. So still rare, very rare.
  16. Bagpuss

    D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

    I'd like to know what real life human culture you think orcs have?
  17. Bagpuss

    D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

    Of course you are right, death of the author and all that, you can ascribe meaning to things that weren't intended. If you continue to insist your orcs are racist stereotype of a particular race, you go for it. I shouldn't try and stop you. But similarly you shouldn't keep trying to invalidate...
  18. Bagpuss

    D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

    You were told they aren't allegorical to a particular ethnic group of people, not that they weren't allegorical at all. (At least by me, I can't vouch for what other people have said).
  19. Bagpuss

    D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

    I see the opposite. Rather than normalizing it "Thanks to the magical working of the multiverse Humanoids of different kinds sometimes have children together." "wonderous pairing" - Implies to me it is weird, and unusual, while they have made it clear all sapient species can do it, when it...
  20. Bagpuss

    D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

    I refer you to my earlier post, this is a feature not a bug. As for the only race called out as being subject to fetishization and bigotry, are you sure you've read the PHB. Dwarves talking about halflings "How can you take them seriously?" Dwarves on Humans "You have to admire that kind of...
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