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Sorry going on a bit of a tangent, semi-related to art, but more about the sort of reactions you often get when mentioning romance, sexuality, etc. in RPGs, but particularly D&D. I heard about that but didn't actually see it.

Okay then perhaps my question should be why does it seem more of a problem when it is heterosexual relationships expressed in RPGs?

Or even two guys sharing a bedroom or even a bed, assumed straight, Laurel and Hardy, Bert and Ernie, Morecambe and Wise.

Oddly perhaps, queer RPGs are one of the places people seem fine with sexual content in an RPG. Thirsty Sword Lesbians fine, Horny Bards bad. Monsterhearts, good; straight fighter hooking up with the barmaid, bad. Perhaps because in order to be queer content, it has to allow for expressing...

Exactly no sex, but lots of hints and innuendo about it.

True but I can't recall any* many RPGs that reduce women to that roll... and certainly not your average D&D module. *Tell a lie, I can think of three all of which are historical based on periods and genres where women had very restricted rolls, and all the PCs are male characters. En Garde...

Well I'm happy for you but I'm British so use to titillation in virtually all my media even stuff aimed at kids. I guess you need to grow up with Pantomime and Carry on Movies.

No, not usually. Just people flirting in character.

Wow, 7th level spell Finger of Death will kill most people, a few Magic Missiles will kill most people. Killing people is simple.

Nothing wrong with that, but generally it's been between players from my experience rather than with NPCs.

There is "overrepresentation of stereotypically" fit and attractive male characters as well. It's fantasy art, not Walmart. Well that goes without saying.

Right so, by that reckoning (first part in bold) all of the art in Reasonably costumed women in fantasy art • r/ReasonableFantasy is still a serious problem, (please have a look though a couple of pages and see if anyone isn't young, slim and beautiful). The second part in bold we've shown that...

I'll have to check it out, but I imagine they were trying to invoke the feel of the classic Morgan Ironwolf illustration by Jeff Dee in 80's red box D&D.

They quality of the art improved a lot as well, and perhaps most importantly the binding. There were certainly more complaints about 1st edition falling apart than there were about the art it contained.

Thanks, I think I said in another thread that when you get to my age twenty years feels like five. I have corrected it. But it illustrates the point. I don't think it is a pervasive in TTRPGs as people might think. Maybe more so in fantasy art in general, and particularly Japanese/Chinese...

Who gets to decide what fits the theme and playstyle though? Not all women are the same, so what fits for one might not fit for another. It's it is pervasive then it shouldn't be hard to find an example. The last illustration I recall making a stir as being problematic, was the Exalted cover...

Can you give and example from a recent TTRPG product that you think it a serious problem?