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I mean isnt it possible your wrong? im addmitting right now I could be wrong but what I say is the only sensible thing to say to NBOT break the rule that you cant do two swifts in one round (generall, PrC, etc aside) and you cant do two immediates in a round just follows suite... Just like you...

Maybe you are just clinging on to an old interpretation that isnt even raw... have you thought of that? :):):):) I would like to be wrong but you have given me no reason to think so. Just spouting on about old rules and reading to close to text.

ok what is everything else? your opinion that is a sensible and RAW interpretation you havent given my ANY textual support to suggest you can do both a swift and an immediate in the same round... so as far as im concerned your just shooting smoke

Maybe maybe not we all know diff between turn and round and immediate actions just confuse things my way is the only way to say you CANT do BOTh a swift and immediate or an immediate and immediate or a swift and a swift in the same round which the rules support... there is rules even in PHB that...

Dont understand??? i am saying round 1 use swift round 2 use wsift (two rounds ina row perfeclty legit)... Round one use immediate round two use immedaite as long you use the immediate AFTER your next turn... Round 1 use swift round two use immedaite (as long as you dont use a swift during...

Actually that is NOT im talking about two rounds in a ROW... you can NEVER use a swift and a swift in the same round OR a immediate and an immediate in same round or a swift and immediate in same round or an immedaite and a swift in same round. THe end of the round business is upto DM what...

BUT the order is important you CAN use a swift and an immediate in two consecutive rounds BUT you cannot use an imediate and a swift in two consecutive rounds... BUT you can use an immediate and an immediate in two consectutive rouns just not an immediate and a swift... so you can do...

So what I am saying is this you cannot use an immediate actionn in any round you have already used a swift... BUT if you DONT use a swift and if you use an immediate on a turn that is NOT your own then you cannot use a swift OR an immediate again until your NEXT turn i OVER.... So that means...

Dont know but it makes it clear that using an immediate during a turn that is not your eats up you NEXT swift that is clear enough.

Please everyone interested look at page 7 TOP left cause the description on page 7 of immediate is what is causing problems people forget to read the WHOLE page. In my opinion it is clear you can take either a wsift or an immediate in a round. The whole debate hinges on whther the "or" is...

i would say no of course if they use it at end of INIT 3 then that is the LAST action for the round they cant use both a swift at INIT 5 and an immediate at INIT 3-.1. If it is acceptable to use an immediate as the VERY last action then you must qualify meaning you must NOT have used your swift...

Ha that is upto the Dm but the round must end sometime right? If the player does not use its immediate action BEFROE the INIT 3 guy went then its the NEXT round. But that being said you can use an immediate whenever you want as long as you havent used up a swift or immediate in the previous...

Yes and quote the top left of this page which is the problem text.

anyway thgt is irrelevant to what I am saying... please please read page 7 of rules compendium and tell me WHY IM WRONG i dont care if Im wrong just want an actually textual supported reason why im wrong... and dont rely on the descritpion of immediate action cause top of page 7 obviuously...

HAHA a round is over at the last INIT count a spells duration is over at the casters INIT count.... So if im a INIT 5 then I cast a spell for 2 rounds in two rounds at INIT 5 my spell ends... But the ROUND ends at INIT 3 cause we will say INIT 3 is the last in the order That is clear enough if...

Thank you mark but i am definitely not confused... please read previous posts. i know what a round is and a turn i think you guys are confused in that the descritpion of immediate actions is screwy BUT read page 7 top left of rules compendium it makes it clear you can take either a swift OR an...

Actually i dont care. Im just saying what I read and I may be disagreed with. Have a good night for sure and I definitely respect your opinion and I really hope im wrong but just want good textual evidence for it. That being said gnight and have a great day tomorrow.

Similarly spells compendium trumps all other resources for spells (except errata made after the spell compendium). But it is limited in that NOT all spells are reproduced in spells compendium BUt the ones that are are the final say so.

why quote another thread when you can look in rules comp and it tells you THAT is the authoritative rules book it trumps ALL excpet errata. That being said rules comp doesnt have feat rules or spell rules, etc. That is why others dont refewr to rules comp BUT in this case it has action economy...

What of course it is a primary book ALSO no errata has trump rules compendium on this issue. Rules comp trumps PHB and DMG as they say in the intro. Wizards wrote that rule comp trumps PHB and DMG. Also you are barking up the wrong tree when 3.5e PHB and DMG came out they didnt even talk about...