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I don’t think that whatever an archaeologist might conjecture is more likely. I think the likelihood of his conjecture greatly depends on the nature of his conjecture, whether he is basing it on already established facts or not.

Let’s look at a mechanic without a randomizer for it occurring. Say falling damage in d&d. If you fall the proper distance it just happens. When did that mechanic (and the ones triggered by enough hp loss) settle what happened? Did someone have to narrate that for it to be settled or does...

At that point wouldn’t a world in which genre was the world truth, wouldn’t simulating those genre elements through process be diegetically simulating the world?

Then no world with magic, dragons and wizards can be a simulation?

But using conjecture even more highlights the difference between d&d and the runes because we can easily spot the differences from conjectures in d&d and the runes conjecture. A conjecture in d&d is either supported by actual fictional details or not. If not (as in the runes example) then the...

I’m not sure I understand the difference?

Exactly. From a simulationist perspective a roll isn’t simply to establish whatever new fiction the player/dm desires (within constraints). This is the problem with framing everything as simply ‘authoring’. Either it’s not all authoring or there are subtypes of authoring and the subtype...

By the strictest definition, even what the viewer sees on the screen isn’t actually diegetic unless it’s filmed completely first person perspective.

Because the authorship of the novel occurs in the real world and depends on the author there then the resulting fiction was not independent of the author. Dependency on the author entails more than dependency within the fiction. It depends on if the GM is establishing the fiction he narrates...

How? A novel is dependent on its author. that’s how you would simulate a fictional world independent of the players.

Creating a simulation isn’t authoring fiction it’s creating a simulation. Let’s say I as dm create a dungeon with certain inhabitants, each with certain behaviors, etc. if my goal is to simulate what they do based on my prep and game mechanics then I didn’t simply create fiction, I created a...

1) by fictional meanings I simply mean meaning within the fiction. 2) not all fiction requires an author (individual or committee). Fiction can also be generated by simulation, by system, essentially by processes that map real world occurrences (say rolling dice) to fictional occurrences...

Thought experiment time. Suppose an actual author creates a simulation and then writes a novel based on the simulation results. Hes not doing the same thing as a typical author of fiction, ie he’s not just making up a good story, in some sense he’s behaving more similarly to a non-fiction...

That’s not precisely true, when we give fictional meanings to real world events and artifacts in non-authorial ways then those granted meanings would be diegetic.

Yep. This is the map of meaning I keep bringing up. We give fictional meaning to non-fictional things - specifically in a simulative and not authorial way.

Wouldn’t rolling up the worlds be a separation?

For what it's worth, you are striking the right balance of bringing up level up sometimes and not overly criticizing games I like. It makes me a bit more interested in it, not less. On a side note, how does it compare in power levels to 2024 d&d PCs? I always felt it had more powerful PC's...

Yea, I think this is fairly common. I would note that depending on what the GM takes into account to create those interesting situations between sessions that might part might either be GM driven or player driven. Say the GM makes interesting situations based on player provided backstories...

So which Virtual Table Tops work best for Shadowdark?

That's helpful. I think the broader question is what that testimony means. My proposal would be this: They mean something different by inhabiting their character than I mean. Probably reflecting a holistic definition instead of the moment to moment one I use. I might go on to say that play...