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I maintain that JC should not have been put as design lead for d&d24. His obsession with RAW minutia per the sage advice twitter pushed 5e away from its design intent and made the system worse. Now d&d24 is written with RAW minutia in mind - and still has significant problems and things that...

Do you know what's included in that section? And yeah a lot of people when they say "exploration" mean "wilderness survival and overland travel", exclusively. Which is only one small part of it.

1975. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyhawk_(supplement)

Ask your GM ;)

This is so stupid. WotC should not be printing rules which require rejection of common sense to function.

Idk I think Hide was reasonably Clear in 3.X. Like, not necessarily Good or Easy to Run at the Table, but it was at least obvious how it was supposed to work beyond making the GM figure everything out.

I didn't have "d&d2024 would de-emphasize the Exploration Pillar even harder than 5e does" on my bingo card. And yet, here we are.

I wonder if the text for the invisibility spell even explicitly makes it so you can't be seen

That's not what I'm referring to. I am specifically referencing a statement from Jeremy Crawford: "Beware of claims that a rule does something mentioned nowhere in that rule or elsewhere in the core books. There aren't secret rules." When you are analyzing a rule, it only does what it says it...

It doesn't say that. If you were meant to lose invisibility when you leave cover, it would say so. There's no "secret" rules in d&d - things do what they say they do and don't do what they don't say they do.

Anyways the real takeaway here is that WOTC has completely failed to create rules text for stealth that are easily understood and consistently interpreted the same way, despite having a decade to do so.

I think thats the goal: You have to roll at least a 15, even if the monster you're hiding from has a super low Passive perception (like say, 8). Its to set a Floor.

It defines that in the previous line. An enemy "Finds You" when it takes the search action and its check exceeds your stealth roll. Or, as has been pointed out, if they have a passive perception greater than your stealth roll.

As Mistwell pointed out, Passive perception still exists and can still detect someone who's taken the hide action, requiring no action. What the DC 15 thing effectively does is give a Floor to passive perception for all creatures of at least 15.

No, your only have to meet those criteria to ENTER the invisible condition. You remain as such until you do one of the listed actions which breaks it: Making a sound, being found by an enemy (by them taking the Search action), making an attack roll, or casting a spell with a verbal component...

Its a common misconception that D&D has rules for things other than combat.

I would not be surprised if they straight up are eliminating it as a concept.

Does this eliminate Passive Perception? Are passive checks even a thing in onednd?

Proficiency Bonus +8

WotC has realized that most people use 5e for Fantasy Blorbo Simulator and their cutting off vestigial stuff meant to appeal to the OSR crowd.