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Players playing heroic characters is very, very, very common in this hobby. I’m not sure it qualifies as a « curveball » for the DM. I honestly don’t think the DM even thought of it much. Definitely didn’t mention it in his pitch.

So when you respond to @EzekielRaiden : What are you referring to?

But you aren’t arguing for compromise. You’re arguing that the players accept with what the GM proposes regardless of what they want. And, let’s be real here. Even if the GM has to « grit their teeth » and accept a game in which the players are more powerful then they would like, the GM gets...

Since you haven’t played or GMed 2024 5e, why should we give any weight to your claim that it is « lipstick on a pig »?

What’s the counterargument then? @Lanefan made a bald-faced claim that was also wrong and didn’t provide any evidence for it. I disputed the claim and justified my reasoning: the evidence of high-level monsters and challenges means that it is possible to increase the challenge of a campaign...

Then you aren’t responding to the argument, you are inventing a new one. The comment that touched off the reponse, and that you agreed with was: It IS easier to up the challenge in an « easy » game than to downgrade the challenge in a « hard » game, particularly for the experienced DMs that...

You don’t have to remove anything to challenge players, just ramp up the difficulty. Setting the monsters both in number and difficulty has always been 100% within the DM’s purview. You’re ignoring the fact that in an less challenging system, you still start at low levels and monsters exist...

No. It’s far easier for a DM to make a softball game more difficult than the reverse. Throw an adult red dragon against a 1st level party in any edition of the game. See how well the party does.

It’s a pretty meaningless statement to say that if you preplan everything, the mechanical act of updating your character sheet is quick, especially if you exclude the time necessary at level 1 to create your character. Meanwhile, I gave up creating my level 1 Mastermind Rogue after 1 hour and I...

PF2 does not have a lightning quick levelling system.

If you need to redefine terms to mean the opposite of what they mean in arithmetic, you might be choosing complexity for complexity’s sake.

You, of course, mean lower than -10, which is exactly the problem.

I started playing at age 10 in 1989. It definitely seems that even in the late ‘80s, the target audience was teens, not college-age students.

Your definition of gatekeeping makes virtually impossible to criticize ANYTHING as gatekeeping, since it depends on the mental state on the person who is gatekeeping, which is known only to them.

Typo. I meant the 4e gnome video.

Yes, my approach is both to remove about 50% of the encounters and to replace the monsters of the remaining encounters rather than attempt converting them.

I agree with @Swarmkeeper. I don’t think you can divorce « arguments have been made » from the weight of those arguments. Elsewise, you end up with journalists reporting « some people believe the Earth is flat. » So, it is insufficient to simply repeat the claim « some grognards believe that...

I second the idea of simply replacing the AP monsters with 5e equivalents rather than converting them (except maybe for a signature ability). The lift is generally not worth the time and effort.

The fact that even the people defending descending AC refer to it as « esoteric ».