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Agreed, I would actually have them toss the most convenient thing (most likely, something they're already holding).

You're welcome to poo poo the options and not use them in your game. However, not every game has to have legal process matching your preferences, nor does the possibility that the trial wasn't going to fair suddenly render the options useless. The fact that a particular use of a spell might make...

Really? You could use "scream" to cause someone to attract the attention of something that responds to sound. "Salute" to get them to salute, which could in turn be a gesture the begins some attempted betrayal, leaking the knowledge that this will be the signal, so that individual appears to...

If the post I quoted was not intended to be directed at me (entirely possible, given you didn't quote me), my bad for taking it that way. :censored:

I'm not disputing your assessment of what happens at your table, which is why I wasn't quoting you in my comment. As I've said multiple times, I'm surprised and confused by what happens at your table, but I've never tried to claim that your version of events isn't what's really happening (to be...

Yes, it may be that I'm a terrible GM and the players I've been gaming with for the last 20+ years hate the way I act and lie to me when they talk about what they like and don't like about our sessions, and they are all just repressing their anger and pain. Or, maybe I'll assume they my read of...

There's no abuse, and no anger, no. Again, I am deeply perplexed that you consider this kind of interpersonal strife normal and natural. That you do does help me understand why you feel so strongly about trying to find rule fixes, but there was no way I'd be gaming if I had to deal with half the...

Wouldn't cause any problems at my table (maybe some gentle mocking of the player, that's about it). It really is quite shocking to me how much friction and frustration you keep telling us you expect at your table, and for really minor things. Edit to add: If it was a really critical moment...

In the unlikely event I ever wanted to run a 3e-era d20 game again, Mongoose Conan would be the game.

You keep saying things like this, and saying that players who try and use open-ended spells in unique or unexpected ways are jerks. You might want to stop and consider that fact that plenty of people in this thread enjoy the sort of play you claim is the domain of jerks. Interestingly, most of...

Rolemaster is great for offering a huge number of spells, many of which can be extremely niche, while others are slight variants of other spells. It works great, but if I want that, I'll play RM. If I'm playing D&D, I want more powerful spells in limited numbers, with a motivation to find...

I've been picking up a number of older AD&D boxed sets. This is the most recent, and possibly last one.

Plenty of people (myself included) don't see making stories as a goal at all.

OK, sure. I may have overlooked some context somewhere, because I'm not sure what we're talking about now. Feel free to disregard my previous comment, I probably have no clue what I'm on about. :)

It seems pretty clear to me @Lanefan is simply saying that if you allow PCs to hinder or harm each other, it's important that everyone remembers it's just a game, and doesn't get so invested in their characters that an in-game betrayal feels like a real betrayal. You can still take it seriously...

Yes, I presume so. It's kind of hard to be objective, but I'm reasonably confident it would not have been difficult if I had been more aligned with what it set out to do

You won't get any argument from me. I completely skipped any formal teaching part for my nieces and nephews -- they generated characters (they told me what they wanted, and I provided options for them to pick from), then we started playing. It's a B/X derivative I play with them, so maybe a...

And the best of all: Future Man.

Yes, you really, really should. It was excellent. I have to go back and edit my previous post, now.