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I think binary reasoning in general (for this issue) would only matter we were programming a video game. In a real game with DM and player interactions, common ground would easily be found either way. The DM would NOT roll out enemy NPC druids in full metal plate if the players like the...

If a Druid was wearing metal armor, they could cast Heat Metal on them selves to punish themselves. You could also cast it on a grill and cook some mean steaks. No fire or charcoal needed.

As a minority (even though I don't speak for all minorities obviously), I will unequivocally state that I am NOT offended in anyway if your druid wears metal armor, disdains the use of metal armor, you allow druids to wear metal armor, you don't allow it, or if you throw the meta armor away and...

Can you tone it down on the evil talk. And equating metal armor bans on druids to real life societal problems is completely off base. We are not going to 3K if this things goes off the rails and we start calling DMs bad/evil for interpreting a rule a certain way - especially if a huge chunk of...

They sort of did limit their proficiency on page 45. I suppose they should have mentioned it again under the class description just to clarify. Even then, that's not a hard ban. Maybe they assumed we all knew the lore/rules from previous versions. At the least, some hard consequences (ie...

So they are sort of like Wizards and Sorceries in a sense.

Totally agree on people not "getting" evil. Being in a party with Tony Montana or Tuco Ramirez can work even with good members. Could even bring up some interesting character interactions. Even a serial killer can work. Just don't walk into a crowded tavern and start indiscriminately killing...

It's also silly to assume that a druid would have to personally hunt, skin, and create any thing that is not in the PHB. There would feasibly be Druid Circles who would be able to provide some of the materials or even have some non metal armor available. Druids do go to war too - especially...

Come to think of it. It's weak compromise positions like mine above that will keep this from hitting 3k or 4k. Argue on!

I don't understand why someone can't be proficient with hide armor, but not half plate. Also, let's not conflate this druid armor thing with "player agency" or "railroading" or "players can do anything they want". If you are arguing in good faith, we all know there is enough confusion to the...

So no errata. I would think your reasons are subjective though. I think this is something they could have errata'ed a long time ago if they thought it was in error. I don't see where "partial proficiency" is illegal anywhere. I don't think there's anything in the PHB that actually...

Where does it say that page 45 is wrong? It got errata'ed out?

You are completely free to ban studded leather from your game. No is saying you must agree to it. You are still playing DnD if you ban it.

The founding fathers probably just meant brigandine armor but thought studded leather was more descriptive. I think the concept of studded leather being brigandine armor is okay.

My thread co-MVPs (in no particular order): Chaosmancer Crimson Longinus

We should try that old Bugs Bunny "no.yes.no.yes.no.yes...yes.no.yes.no.yes...okay fine have it your way.." trick.

What's awesome about these 2k threads is the utter inability of us to acknowledge that...yes ...there are a lot of people (maybe even half) that disagree with me....hmm...maybe, just maybe, I'm not 100 percent correct in my righteousness in a game that is acknowledged by its creators to be...

No one forcing anything here. None of us know where any of us live. None of us can force any of us to do anything. I suppose if we could, then it would get really ugly. Or maybe we would all realize how silly and inane this argument is. I do suppose if all my players wanted metal armor...

As a DM, I would allow this. But then again, I bend the rules alot depending on circumstance and on the PC behavior up to that point. The druid who casually discards lit Marlboro onto dead leaves in the forest would not get as much leeway as Beorn or someone.

Calm down there buddy. Talk like that is going to end this thread before even the 1k mark. You know the same exact argument can be flipped around. We are all so right that only our opinions could possibly be right.