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  1. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    You are playing D&D in my game. You tell me that your character picks his nose. I say no he doesn't. How do you make it happen in the fiction when I said no? The game doesn't continue on without me, because I'm running it. If someone else starts running a game, it's a different game even if...
  2. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Cunning is achieving one's ends by deceit. How does someone know what some runes in the middle of a dungeon are by deceiving them in an expert manner? It also seems very broad. Can I win at chess? Cunning expert. Can I find out what grandma had for lunch? Cunning expert. Can I convince...
  3. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Nor would I. Leaving the table would be our only recourse, though. Not control of the game in any way. Inside the fiction, the character would not have picked his nose. Not only is there a suggestion, the 5e rules out and out say that the rules serve the DM, not the other way around. He can...
  4. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    No it doesn't. Yep. You CAN do those things. Not will. And that's the definition of obedient, not authority. You see, if someone with authority does use to demand a person do something, then the person who is submissive will be obedient. Nowhere does it say that authority = demand for...
  5. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    No it doesn't. Absolutely false. My definition has never been that the DM cannot disrupt the game. Hell, I even said earlier in the thread that the DM can cause more disruption with a bad decision than a player can.
  6. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    That's not what I said. The context of what I said was that it MUST fit within both what the mechanics tell us AND the prior narrative. Magical pixies would be a disruption to the game whether the players complain or not. The last time I was on a plane turbulence disrupted it quite a bit and...
  7. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It attempts to simulate a process, which is 10000% better than magical pixies which don't make the attempt at all. Making an attempt and getting it wrong doesn't mean that you aren't trying to simulate something. Not making an attempt and using magical pixies 100% means you are not. In any...
  8. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    There's more to it than that. Perhaps the whole puzzle border. Enough is given that the DM is not free to just put in whatever he wants without disrupting the game.
  9. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I haven't seen anyone in this thread trying to drive anyone or anything out of the hobby.
  10. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I strongly disagree with that. Rather, it's more like a puzzle that has 80%(or whatever percentage) fixed and the remaining 20% can be filled in by someone else, as long as what's filled in matches the 80%(or whatever percentage). The DM adding in details in narration that MUST fit what the...
  11. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I've never actually had that happen yet, but if someone knew better and said, "Hey, I'm an expert climber and that just isn't the case because of X, Y and Z," I'd change the narration to make sense. Also, I wasn't suggesting that the rock just sliced through the rope like a knife. I was...
  12. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Yep. That's why when discussing D&D I say that the DM literally cannot cheat. The rules allow him to add, subtract or alter rules as he sees fit. That said, there are other ways to abuse authority than cheating that DMs can do, so my position doesn't just let DMs do whatever the hell they...
  13. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    To what level? Hit points(and as a result attacks and damage) are a fairly large abstraction, but the rest of the game is more specific. I don't want huge levels of abstraction all over the place.
  14. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Speaking for myself, I want both. I want light sim mechanics. Enough to tell me basically what's happening, like with the D&D climb mechanics. The specific details can be left to the narration.
  15. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Yes, I'm sure his player did make the statement in good faith. Most of the disagreement here is just a matter of playstyle preferences illustrating why we on each side like or dislike something, not statements about the other side's methods being bad. Personally, I don't see why bad faith...
  16. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I already did. There's no need to come up with the pedantic details you are requiring, so that you can win the internet. The level of detail I gave is much more than sufficient to tell folks how the rogue climbed. That tells me a lot. I've used very specific mechanics related in very...
  17. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Yeah. You and I disagree about what constitutes "any," but you've been very consistent about the amount. Whoever you are talking to is off base if they are saying you are asking for an extreme level.
  18. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    What did your expert have for breakfast? Who was his mother? Why does he hate his father? What sort of mole does he have on his left butt cheek? Why ask why? Inquiring minds want to know!! This pedantic questioning for ever smaller details in an effort to win the internet is getting old. Put...
  19. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Is this "buckets of sim" like the mechanic you showed earlier and claimed was sim, that was virtually identical to the D&D mechanic that you guys claim isn't sim?
  20. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    What are you talking about? I can point to my rogue's hands, feet and rope with the grappling hook as well. And also the rough cliffside full of handholds and nooks for my feet that the DM narrated. Then I will point to his experience which gives him higher proficiency(specialization at the...
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