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Agree. AI generated art can have a place in an artists process . . . if ethically sourced, which none of the currently available tools are. But even with "ethically sourced" AI generative tools, there is something souless and cheap about using art generated by a computer, even if the "artist"...

You honestly believe that AI generated art is superior to the art WotC puts into their D&D books? Okay. Wow. That's a new one for me. You're right at least that artwork preference is subjective.

The Asians Represent podcast isn't a review of Oriental Adventures, or even an analysis really, it is a reaction. And they made more "errors" than just when Comeliness was introduced to the game. Doesn't matter. I mean, the D&D nerd in me wanted to point out the errors made too, but . . ...

I've had a similar progression on a lot of this stuff. Annoyed at first, then realized the change is good and necessary, and haven't looked back since.

Sigh. Who's claiming that the D&D players yelled racist slurs because they had orcs in their D&D games? Not @pemerton, not anyone else in these discussions. Folks were racist when they watched sports games. Folks were racist when they wrote D&D books. The first is an example of explicit...

These conversations about race, gender, and culture in fantasy media and gaming . . . yeah, we're having these a lot more today than we did in the 80s. It's why I don't get upset at Cook for OA. But it doesn't change the fact that OA is a problematic work. And that the way D&D uses the word...

Wait . . . "Comeliness" wasn't in the 3E OA, was it?

To the best of my memory . . . Comeliness was simply ported from Unearthed Arcana to Oriental Adventures, without any change to how it works or is used. Comeliness, on its own, is a terrible rule and I'm glad it didn't survive 1E. Adding it to OA wasn't likely intentionally racist or sexist ...

Good luck finding that data! For any consensus back in the 80s or even today. Maybe in WotC's marketing data they don't share. There is a story, not sure how true, that Gygax shared a pre-publication draft with four Japanese folks . . . I've heard anecdotal stories about Asian American gamers...

It really doesn't feel that way.

I did. It's why I recommended it. The panelists on the podcast, obviously, do not represent all Asians, or even all Asian-diaspora folks. They don't all agree on all points. They're all gamers, but not all are D&D "super-fans" like many of us here on ENWorld. Some of them were familiar with OA...

I'll trust Asian voices on how "okay" Oriental Adventures was, rather than folks in this thread who refuse to accept any progress towards a more inclusive D&D. I highly recommend the Asians Represent podcast, where a panel of Asian-diaspora gamers go through Oriental Adventures (and later...

Our entire hobby is "first world problems".

Nice preview with great art! The getiet is terrifying looking!

First I've heard of it, but I'm not a super fan of Chaosium. They are a great company that publishes great games, just not games I play or pay attention to. The author list on the cover is impressive though! Laws and Stafford! Awesome! I'm pretty happy with the games I have, but if the...

As a cis straight white male . . . can I write fiction or design games that include characters or cultures who are not like me? Of different genders, sexuality, ethnic backgrounds, religious backgrounds? Of course I can! But . . . if I'm going to do so respectfully, do I need to put in the work...

It's not really complicated. It just requires being open to different voices who express upset and judging each instance on it's own. Will we all agree? Will we always get it right? No, of course not. But it is better to err on the side of inclusivity and respect than dig in our heels on using...

Cook did his best to write OA with respect and interest in Asian cultures, and he did his best to research the topic . . . . but society really wasn't having these types of conversations we have today, and the resources available to Cook were limited. Academics certainly were having the...

I do remember that Pramas, after leaving WotC, managed to get the rights to Dragon Fist, and I'm pretty sure there was a Green Ronin published version . . . but sadly, it didn't stick as a major game line for the company.

So, a creator or publisher who CHOOSES not to use a word that some folks find offensive is a poor solution? It's actually more hurtful, or is a radicalization? That's some impressive mental gymnastics there. There's plenty of explanation of why each word is problematic and no longer used in...