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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It's a weird one because if you ask me how I make character decisions then I'll say something like 'it just feels like what that character would do.' and it does feel like that in that moment. Which doesn't yield much up in the way of analysis. My view of what a character is and the types of...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I'm maybe not communicating what I (and @pemerton) are saying. In the 'moment' of making an NPC decision, you're not thinking about the players, you have total disregard for them. If you were thinking about them, then you'd be warping the world in relation to them right? Say I'm playing a...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I've got a low bar. The thing is, if someone does have Narrativist priorities then I can talk with them about living world stuff as it relates to a more impactful gameable space and how you don't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. If they don't then I won't. In the case of bedrock...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    This is one of those things that's a nightmare to describe and it's often the Narrativist final boss. Let's say your warrior has been ordered by the Emperor to kill someone but fights occur and stuff and suddenly you're in a position where you can go and help your friend or follow the emperors...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I mean I'm jumping the gun because I don't really know how sable or bedrock actually play. In principle all the stuff you mention is fine. If secret backstory means they all end up dragooned into doing some adventure stuff on the other side of the world, so be it. As long as the following...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I am interested in that, did you answer it in one of your previous posts?
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I don't know if we're just circling back because I could have sworn we talked about this a bit earlier, anyway. I would consider the scenario the 'unit' of play, as established I call them situations but that's neither here not there. The scenario has a contained sandbox nature in so much as...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I still have a post coming where I lay out my thoughts and address some of your previous responses but this is interesting. I think there's a potential conflict between genre play and emergent drama play. In genre play a npc (or pc) decision will hew along genre lines. It is in effect emulating...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Eh, as far as I can make out @SableWyvern and @Bedrockgames are Narrativists. They like the drama stuff and play is emergent. That's my bar anyway.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I've got a longer reply I can make but if I add: Situation play So we have: adventure based, scene based, sandbox, situation, does that distinction make sense? Situation play would massively reduce the open world exploration aspect but retain the open ended emergent consequences of such play...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    What's a scene based adventure?
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    No it's a bit of a Rorschach test. My answer is that the Emperor falls into despair, doesn't get vengeance and neglects running his Empire. What's the point of all this stuff if what you most love can just get taken away like that? It's true that he responds to slights with violence but that's...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I have conversations in the first person but not exclusively. I describe what the characters doing, their facial expressions and so on. I don't do voices per say but I do modulate my own voice a bit. I sometimes describe their inner thoughts (which is a big no for a lot of the more immersion...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Yeah I think the same is true for me, any character really, PC or NPC. In some ways it hasn't changed since I first started roleplaying. In others it has. So I'm more liable to communicate who the character is to the other participants. I use the meta-channel or character reading of body...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    But how do you choose for the npc's? I have a mental model of them in my head and so if it's conversation then I'm just kind of inhabiting them and just saying what I think they'd say. The mental model is heavily concerned with their current priorities in a way that's maybe a bit different than...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    This is a question for anyone who wants to answer. Here's my living world V Narrativist test. Krangen is the ruler of a vast Empire that he forged himself through valour and rage. He responds to any slight with violence and his rule is cold and hard, although some do say it's just. He lost his...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    @zakael19 answered a lot of this already. Here's some small snippets from the book that point toward the general attitude. In order to play to find out what happens, you’ll need to pass decision-making off sometimes. Whenever something comes up that you’d prefer not to decide by personal whim...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Striving for impartiality - play to find out what happens Pinning down details before choices are made - clocks Letting players trash the scenery - there are no status quo's in Apocalypse World Playing NPC's with their own goals and agency - clocks and pass decision making to NPC's Are you...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It seems this is true of all roleplaying games. Can you give an example of a sequence of play (however brief), or technique, where it's not true?
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Great post. That clears a lot of stuff up and really shows how you do things. On sandrasan's site she has a load of texts under the roleplaying section. These are some of the more relevant. A lot of this might be interesting to Narrativists as well, she's a good theorist. How she...
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