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I would say the external restrictions are in fact there whether you are aware of them or not. I think this is part of Abdul's critique of trad culture, the fish can no longer see the water. That being said, I'm not on a particular mission to convert trad players and I do understand the view...

There are lots of players whose fun seems to come from solving. What I find interesting is when it doesn't and how impactful that is. There's this guy called 'The angry GM' and he bashes Narrativist games a lot and dispenses a lot of a certain strain of trad advice. There was one interesting...

I have a few questions: To what degree is the group aware of this happening? They had an impact on you but was this also a big deal, source of fun, for the group as a whole or was it more stuff that was meaningful to you. How often does this stuff occur? Is it several times a session, once...

Players can railroad as well. Railroading is primarily a state of mind, an approach to the activity that prioritises plot. Failure to understand that leads to the following conflation: The guards can't be bribed because I don't want them to get past the guards (railroading, plot centric) The...

It's what the emphasis is on. You and @robertsconley play in a similar structural fashion to me but the emphasis for you guys is more on the adventure (and presumably uncovering mysteries and how they're solved). So all that thematic stuff happens and is probably essential to good play but it's...

I mean ethics in the sense of a world view, an ethos. Both that characters have them and the players at the table can mutually comprehend and enjoy an ethos in action, in conflict with another ethos, and the consequences it has. (which to me, is Narrativism in a nutshell)

This is a really rough sketch of how I'd use the material and rewrite it to what I'd consider a more thematically potent situation. Don't take this as a criticism though, just showing what I'd do. I'd have to work on it for a few more hours to really beat it into shape. One criticism for the new...

I've give my opinion on this before but if you're making decisions based on established fiction then by definition you aren't railroading. My definition of railroading. Railroading = ignoring the established fiction to get to a story outcome you want

Hah yeah we both noted that Arbela needed to be fleshed out more. So by thematically relevant I mean you've got a lot of really great thematic setting, the Beggars, the war, the ethnic divisions and so on. Yet it becomes kind of 'generic fantasy mush' when you get to the actual encounters...

At first glance the way I play appears to be very similar to the way you play. Where I would differ, using your dire wolf scenario as reference. Your players are essentially uncovering a mystery, they go here and there getting clues and it probably leads to a confrontation with Arbela. Each...

Well a lot of it is the criteria the GM uses to frame the opposition. From my example: Take Thoth sneaking into the library to steal the book. The GM isn't extrapolating what 'would' be the defences because they don't exist. Instead they react to the players intent 'sneak in'. Decide it...

If it was done in the no-myth style it might look something the following: Let's assume Thoth is some kind of wizard and he has the following three beliefs: find a way to bring the dead to life find converts warn against violence in all its forms As GM II ask the player to frame the first...

Yeah exactly that. Incidental stuff is how I often describe it.

Well stuff like the Rotweed and Broher having one eye. They're incidental to the situation in a way that describing the location of the Red star cult isn't. One common thing you see in Narrative games (or even trad games played in a looser more narrative way), is that the players can throw this...

The reason there are terms like color is because a lot of Narrative games play around with who gets to say what about what. There needed to be a shared terminology about what was legit to say. My Rogue is trying to find the location of the Red Star cult. Me: Rogue enters the Black Boar...

Being able to clarify position, effect and intent is great. You can kind of pop the hood, so to speak, such that if things ever get muddled you can sort them out. There's two big reasons I don't formally use them in the systems currently run: The first is that the trigger for a conflict...

It's an interesting question to think about but in a load of games how effective you are boils down to, the GM decides. In my hypothetical I was thinking that the Inquisitor was maybe an hour behind. The player gets sanctuary without any conflict because of the ability. Do they have time to...

The moment of judgement gets silly when it talks about who should have the authority. In most cases whoever has situational authority should have judgement authority. On the move itself, yeah lots of salient points but which is more salient is a local group decision. I obviously agree with all...

It's an interesting example as it relates to this thread because it's the exact type of move where I'd expect different groups to have localised standards, set by the GM most probably and kind of fuzzy and unreliable in application. I don't see that as a problematic at all and is in fact a sign...

Until very recently I assumed that this sort of play was just dysfunctional. I've had to revise that take recently and my new take is that it's overwhelmingly dysfunctional (for most people who do it) but I've become convinced it can be done functionally. I don't think Apocalypse World was...