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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Thanks. This is helpful, it brings together many of the elements you've mentioned across the thread. I see how you're linking referee setup, goals, obstacles, consequences, with a broader ideas of running a campaign. What’s not yet clear to me is what you see as the implication of that. What...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Why do you feel it isn’t as player-driven as claimed? You mentioned it sounds like a series of old-school adventure modules, could you expand on what you mean by that, and how it connects to your view of player agency? I’m asking because I think if we dig deeper here, we might find the specific...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    What is the implication of this from your point of view? I traced back your conversation @mamba and I did not a get a sense of why you considered this an issue. If you’ve already explained this earlier in the thread, would you mind pasting it here? It would really help clarify things for...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I refer you to this earlier post of yours. I was being challenged by another poster about how "character-centric play" was being defined in my conversation with you: I directed them to you because it was clear from our conversation that you had a working understanding of what character-centric...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I understand the frustration, and I agree that mischaracterizations from any direction don’t help move the conversation forward. In my experience, both here and at the table, it’s more productive to focus on the substance of ideas rather than the tone or repeated reframing others may bring. When...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I got you covered on this. Having three or four things is not quite how folks who have been running sandbox campaigns have been doing things for the past couple of decades. That issue has long been covered by a bunch of folks, including myself. For example Blackmarsh (free download) Or my...
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    D&D 5E (2024) OAR 10 City State of the Invincible Overlord

    Decent adventure, unfortunate name. It not a classic but I found it to be a decent adventure that makes quite a bit of sense. The mining rules are not bad either. The interesting wrinkle is the addition of rival adventuring parties.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    At this point, I think we’ve reached the limits of a productive exchange. I’ve done my best to explain how I run living world sandbox campaigns, how sandbox campaigns function in general, how the world reacts independently, how player choice drives the action, and how the referee adjudicates...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It seems like the issue is being framed as if proponents of sandbox campaigns believe some external authority mandates this approach, as if we’re saying “this is the only real way to play.” That’s not the case. The point is that when you choose to run a sandbox campaign, you commit to a...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I’ll be straight with you, I’ll answer your question, but I do want to point out something first. The way it’s phrased feels like it assumes I don’t accept other valid playstyles unless I say so here. That makes it harder to write a clean answer. I’m not upset, but I think it’s important to...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    To show an example here is a post made by one of my player two week in a campaign using D&D 5e in my Majestic Fantasy Realms. Note the rumor they got was a result of the group stopping in the tavern in the village of Hawksleigh and asking around for news. The scribbles are notes by the players...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    From what my players have told me is that when they see me looking at notes, it makes the world feel real to them. They say it gives their choices more meaning, because they know I’m not just making things up based on what they’re doing. The world was already had things going on before they...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    You say you're not criticizing, only describing, but when you describe the sandbox approach as "reducing player capacity," leading to "less knowability," and being "more railroad-y," that is an evaluation. These are judgments about how play operates and how agency is preserved. Describing...
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