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It didn't rewrite 4e, just revert most changes through new, in-universe, history :p

Personally, I disagree, and the reason for that is what we can see in RW. A LOT of people worship gods, even fervently, and they have no concrete proof of their existence, or that their prayers are heard by anyone. In the FR people worship gods mostly because those gods have a meaning to them...

Sounds like I failed to explain myself. In my posts, I didn't imply that Planescape lore has precedence over FR specific lore, at all. I know that the afterlife in the Realms works in a different way, because there is canonical information that explicitly states that. The goal of my post wasn't...

True, it depends on what you do in your game. However, as I've said before, if we talk about the ''official'' version, Toril *is* part of the Multiverse and of a Great Wheel-like cosmology.

Sure, as I said in another post, anything beyond ''the Wall exists, and the faithless go there'' is speculations, since the specifics aren't explicitly stated anywhere. The goal of my post was to adress the idea that there can't be a space where the souls who don't go to the divine realms can...

Yes, I know that the souls of the dead follow a different rule in the FR, because the setting specifies a different rule for them. I was just clarifying that, with the removal of the Wall, and even with gods not accepting faithless in their domains, the souls of the faithless wouldn't be left...

Planescape used to include the FR cosmology. On Hallowed Grounds included info about deities that are unique to the Realms, and had them following the same rules as deities in other spheres. In 5e, the cosmology returned to resemble that of Planescape, and the ''Multiverse'' thing suggests that...

Personally, I'm not into that kind of games (mass invasions, world-ending threat, kill the uber unspeakable evil). I was just pointing that, taking the idea that sparked this discussion (Far Realm aberrations invading Toril through holes in the Wall of the Faithless), if you use the far realm in...

Many Planescape rules are still true in the Realms. The fact that Toril exists in a Multiverse, and that the PHB explictly points to that, means that --in canon-- the FR cosmology can be identified with the Planescape one (5e has basically restored the Great Wheel, with some expcetions, but the...

Thanks, I'll check it.

Yes, but as I said, once the genie is out the of the bottle, and you get a ''war between worlds'', those heralds of madness and insanity become just the next BBEG. They lose mistery, and you still feel empowered, because you get to defeat them, study them, know how they work. And even if you...

In my cosmology things aren't like that, and if you read my previous posts, I thought that it wasn't the case in FR either. However, is there any source that states the specifics of what ''part'' of a soul fiends use, and what ''part'' deities are interested in? Is it stated anywhere how a soul...

That isn't true just for Cthulhu, but for any entity that you want to use to create actually unsettling horror. However, as I said elsewhere, mine was a joke pointing out what a common player reaction would be. Also, if the premise of a game is that aberrations invade your world, then the whole...

If devils and demons fight over souls no matter what their faith is, if souls in a divine Realm ultimately end up joining with the deity themselves, then it follows that souls have value no matter what they have been in life.

Right, was checking ''On Hallowed Ground'' for info on this topic, I didn't think about all of that.

IIRC, belief (as in active worship and working towards what the deity stands for) and followers give power to a deity, not how many souls populate their realm. Idk if a soul that is welcomed by a god would (or could) become a worshipper (even if the deity would surely have the gratitude of the...

Some deities teach to help people in need, no matter who they are, who they worship (or don't worship) and so on. Such deities would --and IMO do-- welcome the souls of people who have lived decently (i.e. they didn't go around hurting others for the lulz) in their home, even if ''strangers''.

IMO, Cthulhu's essence would be very unreliable in stopping a Far Realm threat. It could become a resilient portal that allows swarms of aberrations to enter Toril. I was jokingly pointing out that many players would likely attempt to find a way to wreak havoc in the Far Realms as a solution to...

Kill Cthulhu :cool:

Too bad that in MotB you don't get to shatter the Wall into pieces. I enjoyed the game, but that was really disappointing.