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I saw somebody saying that there was some intent to add more Locations like the Sablewood one created for the beta/quickstart, but they didn't make it. Kinda halfway between an Environment and a Frame, and I guess what you might actually stitch together to make a full "setting." Would be neat to...

We hit 10k! Probably time to close it down :P

Yeah, I absolutely tweak what’s happening at the table based on feedback & what works and what doesn’t. So long as I’m enjoying the play, maximizing how it feels for everybody only enhances the experience.

I’m reminded now that of that group of 4 players who’d never played D&D but were huge CR fans & loved BG3, two things from 4e really worked for them even if they ultimately wanted to go back to 5e after: open rolls / monster knowledge & narrative skill challenges for exploration and story...

You're totally right! The Seraph would be perfect for a setting like that, and if you want to bring guns etc in I think Motherboard would be easy to look at. I guess you could lean into Shifter stuff maybe, or Fae ancestries that you just hand wave narratively as being "glamoured" when you're...

I’m talking D20 fail forward play here, which stresses evolving the situation on a failure. This is everywhere in 5e GM advice these days, including all the popular “content creators” and such. I’m pretty comfortable saying it’s mainstream.

Absolutely, and I’d point players back to the core Player Best Practice of “Embrace Danger” which explicitly calls out overthinking plans as something to avoid.

Sure, there’s some players who don’t really want to play a RPG either - they just want to tell stories and throw a d20 as a dice of fate once in a while. But I think most players accept that “I get what I’m trying to achieve, or something complicating happens” as a form of play. People seem to...

I don’t think I’d bother, unless it was a Frame specifically about a premise that involves a lot of planning you want to elide - the purpose of the flashback to generally be like “a hah! We planned for this eventuality, take THIS.” One of the ancestries or communities lets you do a “have a...

Ok, but even pretty much all “conventional” game state-of-the-art advice embraces a fail-forward mentality. Daggerheart is probably the purest distillation of the “game as collaborate cinematic experience” and bakes it right in. As long as I’ve been playing 5e, “I roll and nothing happens” has...

Most of this play now falls under the OSR umbrella, and has its own distinct play culture and expectations that you're absolutely signing up for. Heck, it generally stresses to avoid rolling outside combat as much as possible!

No, it's because you keep dropping crappy little one liners like digs or "crapposting" throughout this thread. Like, you show up each day to go "whoa my god what you just posted sounds like hell on earth for what I want out of D&D, away with you!" Do I think that everybody should be playing...

Yes Micah, we know that you're also extremely conservative. :P Like seriously folks: if you're not playing a TTRPG to tell some sort of interesting story; and also not in teh OSR skilled play / problem solving culture, you're deeply outside of the dominant D&D play culture. Sure, that's not...

Managing the spotlight in an active fashion also goes hand in hand with “GM moves” and all the stuff there. Most of it works best when very pointed - put a single character in a spot and ask what they do. There's a great post over on r/daggerheart pointing out that doing this is also how you...

You said: I was providing an example of how narrative games can be focused on adventure. The core loop of Stonetop is Expedition -> Homefront -> time pass (maybe) -> Expedition. It’s explicitly an adventure based game. The emphasis on why you go on adventures may be somewhat different, but...

Coming from the narrative game side of the house: it’s so much better to not be subtle. This was one of the biggest changes for me going from 5e to other games, and I wish I’d known about active spotlighting techniques years prior. If it’s a grabby situation that demands action (cinematic!)...

So your original comment was struggling with seeing how these “other games” can hit the same exploration notes as D&D. While I haven’t seen scene framing and recommendations like this show up apart from the 2024 DMG and the 4e one which I only read recently, I’m glad that you can see how you can...

Yes, and also remind players they can hand the spotlight off with a bit of fiction to another player! “Jon yells “Kyree, can you fix them in place like that last group?” as he hunkers behind his shield” is a totally valid response to being spotlighted, and when you have a group that’s adroit at...

Yeah absolutely. That foraging with an impending storm? I mean, he needed more mystical supplies, but he could’ve decided to set that aside; so off he went Foraging (and rolled a 7-9, which in this case I suggested had an obvious consequence: he found what he needed but the storm opened up).

Yeah, even in light of reading plenty of other PBTAs and such - going back and looking at DITV for instance lays things out so clearly. Knowing how to run BITD and PBTAs is informing how I look at Daggerheart. FWIW, in the game of Stonetop we had on Sunday during the End of Session portion one...