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right, but at 20th level, they not only get Advanced Learning (another ninth level spell? why yes, thank you), but alsomad hit points. 20(d6+Con) gets entirely recalculated to 20d12. the DN's hit points can easily double.60' darkvisionMental Bastion (+4) becomes immunity to sleep, paralysis...

Where do I sign up?

Yeah, I assumed as much, but my problem with this is that it is such a sudden transformation. Compare this to the relatively smooth progression of the Dragon Disciple.

oo! I like that!

That's my thought.

What in hell is GM's day? Is this like Secretary's day? I guess you could get me flowers and chocolate, though I prefer beer and pretzels.

Are we talking about this guy? I live in Berkeley. It looks like he still keeps a PO Box up the street (Google search, dontchaknow).

Seconded. I think we've been playing it this way.

yeah, but when I asked the question, I asked it in a similar manner to my first post in this thread... His answer seems to be basically "No," since all the class mentions is picking up the undead type and rerolling hit points.

Is this a joke? What is annoying about FtP?

Humans are powerful and flavorless. Dump em. Half-elves are not quite as powerful and almost as flavorless. Dump em, too. Half-orcs can be fixed, a little bit, so that they can stand opposite true elves.

These aren't skill points. These are racial skill modifiers. The lich gets +8 on six skills. Are you saying that you also don't give vampires their racial skill mods? FWIW, I pestered CustServ about this: OK, so there's no LA, but... none of the other stuff? Why the heck call it "lich...

yes. I'm a real stinker with the mind-control magic, though.

The undead do not change the cleric's CR. They bump up the EL of the encounter a little bit. e.g. a 5th level cleric with ten human zombies would probably be about an EL 6. If instead he had twenty human skeletons...with a nasty setup I could see that becoming an EL 7.

Img The elements are air, earth, fire, metal, water, and wood. The energy types are corrosion, freezing, heat, shock, and vibration. Thus, protection from energy becomes protection from heat or corrosion or whatever. Fire doesn't hurt you; heat does!

oh, no! A dork! Playing Dungeons and Dragons! Quick! Kill him! :uhoh: My take: the only rule that he really broke is the standing-up rule. (I always have clippers and sandpaper nearby for just this reason.) You should let him have his fun. Do you also tell him how to spend his...

CustServ responds again Chris got back to me: D'oh! My man lost in the Thunderdome!

Has anyone else noticed that death ward is a third-level spell...and a fourth level spell? Or that dispel magic is a fourth-level spell...but greater dispelling is a fifth-level spell? WtF? My question, though, is about Lich Transformation. It says the PC becomes a lich, and that the type...

I referred to my initial list of possibilities (see post #8, above). I told him that someone else submitted the same question and got answer #2 from Sam, compared to answer #1 which Chris gave me. I should have sent him your initial argument, but: 1) I had said earlier that I wasn't trying to...

...except it's Hypersmurf's absurd example, not mine My money's on Chris. He's the supervisor; he's got at least one more level of Expert. I also prodded Chris with a stick: I pointed out that Sam gave a different answer. muhaha Can we at least debate the intent and playability of the...