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1) There is a popular mainstream bestselling "erotic romance" series which involves a lot of explicit male dominant/female submissive sex scenes. 2) Therefore, any female player who is bothered by the male players wanting their PCs to go en masse to a whorehouse is engaging in a sexist double...

I don't think anybody really disagrees with the idea that a rules system or a GM may set limits on what the players or characters can do, and that setting limits is not automatically a problem. The contrary position is by definition somewhat absurd, really. So if you are uninterested in...

shadow, like you I tend more to go with supernatural horror than cosmic horror, but I've found the CoC system (and its similar genre-mates) to be fine for that. Dread is perfect for that, but suffers from the same problem you mention re ongoing games.

Celebrim, you're ranting. Period. You're attacking things nobody has said, attributing things to other people's arguments ('women are delicate flowers', 'men are bestial') that they didn't actually say and then arguing as if they did (who, please, other than you, said anything about 'penance'?)...

I'm not quite sure what this means, particularly the "statistically" part, and I am a little puzzled that you cut off the last part of that sentence, which notes that if you're a man, your experience and perception of this problem may be somewhat different. Also, the issue isn't simply about...

1) awful and 2) joining a bootcamp-type gym, which means that I will tend to show up instead of "eh, maybe I'll go tomorrow". I agree that camraderie is a good motivator. All of the dudes in my current gaming group are REALLY into being in shape, and happily in a "you wanna do this too? COOL!"...

Dread is still my favorite horror RPG, not so much for the Jenga tower as for the questionnaire mechanism. For longer-term games I usually end up going with some variant of Call of Cthulhu, planning on switching over to Trail once I can persuade my jaded gaming group to learn another system....

Kursk, I appreciate that your heart and your actions are in the right place, but I would urge you to consider that poor treatment of women in gaming culture may exist even if you personally haven't experienced it, and that if you're a man (as your post suggests) that you are less likely to have...

Indeed so. The interesting question is why the GM or the source material chooses to set those particular boundaries, and whether it is in fact the case that those limitations are followed. If they're followed arbitrarily then the players are quite justified in asking whether "we have to do it...

Celebrim, for someone who doesn't think anyone should "speak for women", you yourself are doing a lot of speaking about how women gamers supposedly act and what they want and what their motivations are. Do all female gamers want the exact same thing? Of course not, any more than all male...

Some of us are, yes. That's not about "rank", whatever that's supposed to mean; it's an observation that women-in-gaming is, for many gamers, not an abstract discussion about somebody else. WRT things like upper strength limits: unless a GM is trying to run a rigid historical simulation or some...

It might help to keep in mind that some of the folks participating on this board, and indeed in this very thread, are women who are gamers.

innerdude, if you aren't ready to just reschedule your game night without telling these guys, then probably you should sit down and tell them what you're telling us: that it seems their expectations and what they enjoy in the game aren't matching up with how you GM the game, and it's frustrating...

Yes, that was pretty much my own reaction when I read your post, which was a long screed in which you 1) attributed things to me I did not actually say, 2) ignored and distorted what I did say, and 3) also ignored the fact that regardless of my own personal opinion, people who are or have been...

"Online vigilante army"? If by this you mean, exhorting others to make death threats or engage in actual harassment like trying to take down a website, I would hope we would agree that is unreasonable (and probably illegal) regardless of whether the motive is "I didn't get my apology" or...

Okay, I didn't think this was the "CAH: threat or menace" thread, but my point was not that CAH is an awesome game; only that it's a teensy bit difficult to shriek that everybody criticizing Krahliuk is a politically-correct oversensitive meaniepoo when the guys who wrote Cards Against Humanity...

Sorry, are we back to "criticism of PA = bullying"? Because I genuinely can't see any other reason you would get that out of my post.

Is this new behavior from these two players, or have they always been powergamer types? If it's new, then something is up. Maybe they were having a bad day, or something about that encounter bugged them, or they're just beating themselves up because they genuinely feel like they made dumb...

What's baffling me about this controversy is the sheer level of doublethink generated by fanlove of PA. Rape jokes are OK because free speech, but if you say it's crummy to poke at rape victims, that's not free speech and you should STFU. It's perfectly OK for Krahulik to behave badly because...

Janx, speaking of 1984, do you realize that your post contains a truly startling amount of doublethink? Or perhaps I'm thinking of Animal Farm; some free speech is freer than others. Unfortunately, in the real world - which you actually don't have a choice about living in - you can't really...