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The lawsuits got settled?

Yes, it is literally "extrajudicial" because it is not in the courts. Nobody is "taking away" S&J's ability "to exist", or to work, or anything else. People do not want to associate with them because they behaved in a chaotic, cruel manner to many people, sometimes for no reason other than sheer...

I thought Colossal Cave and its offshoot Adventure developed before TTRPGs were a thing?

(sorry, weird double post)

It is off topic in the sense that "how do we re-integrate people with criminal convictions into society" is an enormously complicated question, made more so by the fact that (in the US at least) issues of racism and disparate treatment factor strongly into what is a crime, who is charged with...

Or, they learned from their mistakes and are determined not to get caught this time. (Part of being intimately familiar with the laws and regulatory requirements means knowing where the loopholes and lack-of-oversight are, too.) Or, they simply don't have the impulse control to resist grabbing...

Sometimes the right thing to do is the right thing to do, regardless of whether it gets the poll numbers back up. "Flaws are discovered"? "Fall" into a narrative arc? These people cultivated celebrity status for profit and used that status to intentionally cause harm to others who annoyed them...

Live by the sword, etc. Though it's a bit concerning that your criteria for dogpiling = bad is that you, personally, don't know these people and never saw 'em do a bad. If everyone posting mean tweets about S&J had personally witnessed their bad behavior, would it no longer be "dogpiling"?

Sure. I'm just observing some of the back and forth and it's one of those things where there isn't going to be a consensus, because Geek Social Fallacy #1.

I'm going to gently suggest here that this "sucks" much worse for the people Satine and Jamison and their enablers stepped on, and your maybe-she-didn't-know-any-better, everything-is-terrible casting is misplaced? What you're missing is that your focus here is on bad actors and the...

Let's just be blunt: it's the perspective of someone who either used to be a gatekeeper, or was oblivious to all of the gatekeeping that was actively being done to people who didn't look or present like him.

Since nobody has suggested "assuming the worst of everyone", and since that is not the only possible alternative to "assume the best about this particular person", we needn't worry about injustice! That's a relief and I hope we can move on from false dilemmas now.

Their actions are not "evidence", then. Thanks for clarifying that the priority here is protecting missing stairs.

I truly don't understand what you mean by "painting in extremes" - it's "extreme" to do anything other than create exculpatory stories for strangers who 'seem' nice?

Who said anything about Z being a “psycho abuser”? You keep painting this in weird extremes: either the assumptions you are making about Z being a truly good dude unwittingly led astray are true, or he’s an evil abuser who is being tarred simply by “associating” with Satine. Perhaps it would be...

What's "do the opposite"? Are you really arguing that the only possible alternative to the Missing Stair Cinematic Universe is to presume evil motive as the default? You're right, we can't assume things sight unseen. That includes assuming 'he meant well' and 'he was confused' and 'he was...

This is how it keeps happening, you know? Abusers and creeps bank on this. They slither in between the gaps in "everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt" and "never presume malice instead of ignorance". They know that most people dislike confrontation, and would rather make excuses and hope...

Thanks Christian! The second attachment isn't the countersuit, though, it's the demurrer and motion to strike to the original lawsuit. I'm guessing the two suits may be consolidated at some point.

Since the tweets/article about the lawsuit end of things was pretty scant on details, and I'm home with a sick family member today, I looked it up. Below is what I was able to determine without shelling out $20-$30 for copies of the pleadings. You can look at the first page of them for free via...

This sounds like a backhanded dig at people upset that their own history and culture are being used in an embarrassing and stereotypical way? I'm curious about the assertion that "most of the time", depictions of "cultures" are sanitized of unpleasantness. TBH, that kind of handwaving is fairly...