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Let me know when this is in a PDF and it'll be relevant for me to download and print in a nice format.

In what possible world does discontinued NOT equal failure? If you don't fail you succeed. If D&D4e did not fail then it was a successful game. If its successful then it makes money. If it makes money the company would continue support because companies like to make money. I love 4e. I think...

It IS not possible to dispute that 4e failed at least in the market. If you want to convince me it's still alive please, show me where I can get the latest 4e book that D&D put out this past year. The company isn't supporting the game, they moved onto another edition. The game as a whole failed...

I don't think halflings are anywhere NEAR as bad as everyone makes them out to be.

Very cool. This is what I was saying about getting a tried and true dev. These guys clearly know what they are doing. Glad Wizards is starting to wise up.

I've been reading the various topics on these boards and I saw one topic about how the developers don't come here much anymore or at least if they do, they lurk and keep their involvement minimal. I certainly can understand why. Most of the topics on this board are complaining. I'll own up to my...

I want them to come up with a Horizon Walker type of ranger. One that travels the different planes and stuff.

Mmmm. Going to keep going with my video game developer argument earlier. I'll certainly agree that wizards probably isn't going to pony up 100,000 for building a program like this, but going to game devs is still an option, even -very- good game devs shouldn't be ruled out. The argument that it...

Ran a game for a few months every other week. The team had been hounded and tricked by an opposing group of NPCs. There wasn't necessarily a big bad, just another group getting treasure before them making their lives miserable. Finally I called one final session. 8 people showed up instead of...

I like 4e because it provided me with a Final Fantasy Tactics like experience. Almost every turn based strategy RPG for a console is praised universally. Final Fantasy Tactics, Fire Emblem, Vanguard Bandits, XCOM, Front Mission, Tactics Ogre. All of them contain extremely engrossing story lines...

It's hard to write programs for sure, but there are hundreds of companies that do this. Look at the video game sector. They have to make the rules AND program the game AND music AND graphics/UI. It's hard but just about any RPG game dev could do it. You won't convince me that the guys that make...

Thanks much better. Bumping this for exposure. I'm curious as well.

Good discussion so far. I'm honestly not trying to say WOTC is bad. Again, they are a great company, they give us great games, but their digital endeavors are just awful. Im honestly just... confused. More of their digital promises are broken than are kept and at this point it seems like some...

I like 5e. It's fantastic, I also like 4e and 3e and all the others Es out there. The guys over at WOTC are very adept at game design but every time they try to offer some kind of digital -thing- they fail, almost invariably either through bad negotiations, deals falling apart, inept programming...

This.

Misleading topic title.

The poll is fairly balanced so far. Unexpected. Interesting.

This guy should be the example for everyone in the topic. Good job!

You seem to imply every small non D&D game is doomed for failure (saying that 4e wouldn't have been as big as it was with having the name) when clearly that isn't true. Look at... well just about ANY D&D esque rpg, 13th age, Dungeon World, Mutants and Masterminds, Castles and Crusades... the...

Just a poll I wanted to make. I have a sneaking suspicion that the worst part about Dungeons and Dragons 4th edition was that it was attached to the name. With that name came expectations which led to an early demise. We didn't even get a proper DM3 for epic level play which I'm still salty...