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Dude...OUCH. :p

Ugh, I know. What a concern troll. ;) :p :lol: Please don't ban me. :heh:

...and why is it presumed that it won't keep them? Because of the assumption that given time they'll "grow out of" the tastes that drew them to 4e, while previous editions feed tastes that are appropriate for "mature" gamers. Context, and the poster in question, are important. To which I say...

The only thing I've learned here is no-one can even agree how many blind men there are. :p

Never happen; Hasbro has a long-standing history of clutching their IP, even those they're not currently marketing, like grim death. You're saying "I want D&D to be locked away in a filing cabinet until it dies completely". Have fun with WoW! I'm sorry, is there some way this doesn't say "My...

Yeah. I just need to shut up about it. :\

This will completely save wizards for me and bring me back on board. If I'm not collecting more and esoteric abilities from dusty tomes and inhuman tutors, I'm not a damn wizard. :p These are relevant to my interests.

You know, I was on my way to bed when I wrote that and sahuagin totally slipped my mind. Fair enough.

Hell, gaming's my only money-sink hobby other than regular books, so it gets the lion's share of the discretionary budget (most of my books are second-hand and I live pretty miserly otherwise, so it's a reasonable portion of my living wage). I'm waiting for the cleaned-up and errata-ed special...

But now they could. Won't that be nice for them? :D

Unlikely, as Deep Ones are ocean-dwelling. The best D&D analog are kuo-toa, if Deep Ones were driven from the ocean bottom and went soft and primitive and crazy. EDIT: Deep One .

This, I believe.

There's something else I associate with these trogs that the old ones never gave me. That little bugger looks like he can dig!

My theory? That's handily voted for by not participating in the poll.

Two - Chaosium in the 80's and the d20 version more recently. Something more helpful to the thread: Lady Miriam's half-acre rosebush maze is the talk of the entire city, its spectacular blooms remaining through mild winters. Whispers have abounded in the sitting rooms and tea houses for years...

They're districts of Sanctuary, described in literature as "the most dangerous city in fantasy" and as an RPG in the Thieves' World books.

I approve of civility. I don't approve of being able to be hurt by messageboard text. My god, what must these folks do in the outside world?

These sorts of cities often do; my original model was the Maze & Downwind from Sanctuary. :D

Precisely. Repeat after me, everyone: "There is no way nerd rage can hurt me. His/Her way of pretending to be an elf is not better than my way of pretending to be an elf. I can just ignore him/her/it."

The poor have secrets too... The rundown slums and claustrophobic alleys of the Lost Quarter, stuffed between the tanneries and the midden, are home to the lowest of the low, the wretchedly poor and the simply wretched - if you have nowhere in the city you can call home, you end up in the Lost...