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I believe it's "have levels", rather than "level up". Grognards assemble! Did they ever, or was that just from the Tom Hanks movie?

Well, it comes from being in the 4e forum to show the great undecided that 4e isn't being, to quote, "blindly accepted". This often seems to require imagining the worst possible application of something described in a preview, then presenting it as fact. Agendas are being served.

What I'm getting is you're upset WotC won't do your roleplaying for you, and are limiting the tools to mechanical effectiveness. Any actual character will have to be supplied by the player, rather than being read from the class description. Sorry, no sympathy. A lack of roleplaying is a GM...

You're welcome to him, good sir. :cool:

Once. Fingledorp Winglestamp, Gnomish Freelance Chartered Accountant, once approached a PC party and offered to manage their finances, invest their treasure as capital, and acquire interests in businesses that would help them in their adventures - for a modest stipend, of course. Assuming he...

I've already reported one ad thread for this site, so I feel that's worth keeping in mind. And wasn't there already a 3.75 petition someone started here? Also, it seems the 4e forum is also the best place to find people who want 4e to fail and the design team to end up unemployed and homeless...

Point of fact, there's an RPG.net poster who was still has his copy of the handwritten notes that would become the brown box (having played at Table Zero), and he says flat out "We thought it would be fun" to the origins of the cleric. I'll take Warlock on that say-so; Mearls has earned at least...

The cleric smacks the hit points out of him in the form of little red numbers and the fighter catches them. :cool: Why does studying how to jump-kick somebody in the head really well teach you to speak Otyugh? It's a game, and they made up some stuff they thought sounded fun. Like Gary did...

The only flavor that's acceptable when being crammed down the throat of a D&D group (somehow ignoring the fact the idea is ABJECT LUNACY) is 'Gygax Brand Cream of All The :):):):) We Talked About In Mythological Studies 102'. It's okay to force it on us -again- because we've been swallowing it...

I like homebrewing, but I'm a top-down kind of guy, so I appreciate having something to run while I fill binders. :D

I'd say, based on everything we've seen, there is one. It doesn't have a name or nations or NPCs or anything, but it seems one will be referred to in the core books.

:lol: Wait, no. I mean :confused:. Huh? Darn kids and your mp3 video games.

Except for, you know, the information coming out of WotC, rather than your :):):). Like this bit, posted on the handy main 4e page for edification (and rumor-quelling): As regards the subject of the thread? No spellbooks. I've come around to -really- liking just about everything about them...

How about Ftr 15/Wiz 5? :p

Yes indeed. Call themselves the "hin". Kalamar does the same for hobgoblins (and likely halflings).

Older editions saved wallowing in overreaching prose for the entirety of the rules. After the 3e phone books a little color is due, IMO. And the dorkass names are half the fun.

D&D Is Serious Business.

And one more time...Welcome to the 4e forums! :\ Some folks just wanna fight about it, I think, like the guy in the bar who just got laid off and he's really mad at the world.

D&D 3e is an excellent game for running fantasy adventures in a world that looks a startling amount like Greyhawk. And yes Virginia, when you consider some of what we see in fantasy worlds (Tekumel or Glorantha on the one end of the spectrum, Nehwon and errr....Thieves' World? Do the ever name...

Except for back a chapter or two, in the class section, where the wizard write-up talks about the Golden Wyvern order (see the old Design & Development article about implements). This will, hopefully, help the poor folks remember that it applies to wizards.