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You won't need to wait that long. They are currently revising the GSL. I think they'll correct the problem. As was pointed out earlier, they didn't create the GSL just to be rejected. They created it for the benefit of 3pp's. It's quite possible the control aspects were due to an over-zealous...

I believe he is speaking in post revision terms. When you take out the problem areas, what he is saying is how it looks like it should work. The problem areas really just have to do with WOTC's controlling the license (see my sig). Those problems have nothing to do with how the loss leader...

Well said.

Thank you for the clear responses. Yeah, I get it. :) By the way, I consider you more reasonable for things like this and for actually making an honest effort [read: pure motive] to provide the evidence I ask for. As for my view of what a personal attack is, it is when a discussion stops...

Coming from the very first person to attack me in this forum in my very first discussion on the GSL and always more than happy to make personal attacks against me. If it came from dmccoy, I might actually consider it.

I came from the assumption of knowing general business practices and contracts while finding myself completely lost in regard to the gaming industry. While business rules still apply, there have been factors popping up unique to the gaming industry that I was not familiar with. I am making an...

Thank you for the advice, though (not protesting, just saying) I usually save my antagonism for those being antagonistic towards me. Oh, my dirty little secret. Oh, wait, after 3 weeks of discussing these things, I'd say it's well established that I'm not particularly informed about WOTC's...

My stance is well-stated in this thread. I don't know what else I could say to make it any clearer. You can also get more on my view with my new signature. Thank you. I appreciate that. Now, if you could convince certain others of that, I think things might go smoother. Well, as I stated...

I already got what I asked for as per dmccoy's last post. The concession has been made. There's no more need to ask about what kind of proof I'm asking for. Besides, I only asked for it because it was my "belief" vs. their "belief" and I was on higher ground at the moment. As demonstrated by...

Fine. I changed it to something I know I can prove was said and with no attribution. Now stop reporting me or I'll report you for targeting me.

You believe, I believe, so you just feel like going around in circles with an argument that doesn't make ground just because you don't agree? Then if you just want to argue endlessly without making ground, there would be no point, except that I accept that you made slight progress with the next...

Edited. That's how I interpreted you accusations against WOTC's motives. But per your request, I removed the credit to you.

I'll get back to you on that.

No, I'm not. It was one of the WOTC heads that said that all you need to do is strike the logo and one other point in the OGL (I don't remember right now) and the license is still valid. Sure, my term over-simplified the issue, but it was not wrong. You understood what I was talking about...

CapnZapp: 1. I said "If you can't establish that WOTC benefited from the OGL, then you can't discount my claim." I'm not trying to establish my claim. I'm trying to defend the right to it. There's a big difference. 2. I never denied it. It's not at issue here. 3. I never denied it. It's not at...

I'm a firm believer in loss leading sales. What's happening here is that words are being shoved into my mouth. I never said nor implied what you are attributing to me. You're comparing apples and oranges. Yes, they are both fruits, but they're not the same. What you're pointing out is the theory...

Speculative that the OGL has the same effect as free RPGA memberships. They're two entirely different things. One is a contract allowing the use of WOTC's IP by other companies. The other is an organization for players of those systems to track their game play and get quality adjudication...

That's speculation.

The question is how WOTC has benefited financially from the OGL in practice. Answer it how you like. Just keep the speculation out and keep out talk of what it was supposed to do. We've already trampled all over that ground.

You completely missed my point. Those are examples of other companies benefiting from WOTC, not WOTC benefiting from the licenses with those companies. My point is that WOTC gave up market share to those companies without seeing a return from those licenses. WOTC spends tons of money developing...