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You have to actually pose a specific challenge in order to get an answer to that challenge. If I make a claim and it goes unchallenged, then it is either accepted or ignored. I challenged your claim and you expected ME to provide the evidence for YOUR claim. You posed your challenge to my claims...

Indeed. Between seusomon and GSHamster, we should all consider ourselves schooled. That was an excellent analysis and deep consideration of the mindset behind the two genres. However, I have to comment that while they were not consciously aware of the differences, the storytellers did know that...

Hehe. Okaay, a little introspection there. Now back on track... VIVA LA MEXICO! er...I mean: EDITION WARS SUCK!

Nice to see you Smoot. :)

Enworld does not support those other games. Enworld was created to support D&D and d20.

One thing I've learned is that "ghetto" doesn't apply online. Ghettos arise because of setting people of a perceived lower class into an area confined within a city. This creates racial tensions (as the races are often segregated into separate grottoes) and they stew in their circumstances, not...

Because 1e and 2e are joined into 3.x, because there are so few players of those systems and their edition wars are long over. There's no pressing need to separate them.

How's this? 3.x players should have a place that preserves the legacy of their game that they love so much. Even still, there are many players who will be using both rules sets. I'm sure they will want a place to discuss the 3.x game in general. Yes, I know there are two 3.x rules threads, but...

Sooo, change human nature, not the boards?

I don't know how to make a poll here, so if I can't get it launched, just state your opinion here for now and maybe we can get it set up later. First off, this thread is NOT for discussing the editions, and therefore no edition wars talk, PLEASE! I want this to be a real discussion and perhaps...

So your point is that as long as they're not attacking each other, it's okay for them to yell at each other over the game versions, even though the discussion gets them absolutely no more satisfaction than getting it off their chest that they hate the other version? And how would letting this...

Peaceful oranges, please. :D

Gilgamesh isn't just one of the oldest. It is THE oldest heroic account. You just can't get older than that when you're discussing heroes. It is really the basis from which we get all the kick butt muscle men adventures, and as you say, it beats most in fantastical tales, and there was a...

That reminds me of a few: "Wherever you go, there you are." "You see what you want to see." "If your attitude is bad, you'll see bad wherever you go." "Can't we all just get along?" :D

Enworld is turning out to be a close second, though it is still the best for its moderators alone. It's the only forum I know where they will boot a person from a thread instead of just booting them from the site. That's a flippin' awesome tool and policy. It shows much more respect to the...

Once again, I have to point out, no. Lucas pulled his reluctant hero straight out of mythology. Everything that made up Star Wars came out of ancient mythology. Odysseus was a reluctant hero, Perseus was a reluctant hero, and I know there were others.

Apparently you don't understand the law of logic. You make the claim, I challenge the claim, you provide the evidence. You don't make a claim and then ask the one challenging the claim to provide your evidence. It doesn't make sense. "A bit farther apart?" Are you kidding me? I could choose Fang...

Well, if you wish to go through that territory, feel free. We haven't really established what is new and what is old for the entire discussion. We only established it for the opening leg of the discussion. The rest is open to finer time lines. :)

This is indeed a good point. I'm surprised I didn't think of it considering my own experience. This is definitely a major problem that should be resolved in most LGS. I don't have any ideas on how to consistently resolve this issue at this time, but I'm sure a little brainstorming could birth a...

Out of all our comments in this thread, this is the most intelligent, straight to the point, post I've seen. This is indeed where the difference lies. Yes, no overt claims to this enlightenment in each story, but a definite awareness that is ever present, along with the more fleshed out and...